Ratings, Rants and Raves: B&B and GH Spike; How to Get The Young and the Restless Back to Business





CBS Daytime's The Bold and the Beautiful continued its meteoric ascend in the Nielsens, while ABC's General Hospital showed signs of ending its ratings slump the week of July 15-19. Sony sudsers The Young and the Restless and Days of Our Lives didn't have nearly as much to blog home about. (Source: Soap Opera Network)

B&B was up 87,000 total viewers (+456,000 year-to-date). B&B also went up one-tenth of a point in households and held steady in the key female demos.

The Bold and the Beautiful could have been renamed: "A Logan Woman Scorned" the week in question, as Katie Logan Spencer (Heather Tom) ousted her cheating husband Bill (Don Diamont) from atop his global publishing empire. Teaming with her Sapphic sister-in-law Karen (Joanna Johnson), Katie combined her one percent of Spencer Publications with Karen's 50 percent to create a majority. Dollar Bill was kicked out on his smug ass and B&B created the kind of soap operatic drama that no doubt has Bill Bell smiling down from the heavens.

35 Responses

  1. Avatar of booze26
    booze26

    Bye bye Hunter Tylo!!!! God…I wonder how the so called tylo fans are going to react when this soap is still going up even without the most laughable actress in daytime.

  2. Avatar of Ryan-Scott
    Ryan-Scott

    Love it as always Jamey! Especially about Y&R.

    This had me on the floor at my desk at work:

    Jill (Jess Walton) wandered around town looking for people she recognized, or a storyline worthy of her legend.

  3. Avatar of Duchess
    Duchess

    B&B was on fire last week but then it’s been on fire for awhile now! Very deserving of the great ratings it’s getting. We saw all those stories about soaps dying but there should be a story about how B&B has gone up in ratings for two years straight now. Even after losing Tylo and sort of losing JMW on top of Moss and Flannery leaving their ratings continue to rise. It was a great move to make Heather Tom basically the star of the show. They’ve turned her character into Victori-Katie and I’m loving it! She’s giving me Victoria Newman heading up Brash and Sassy flashbacks in a good way. The additions of Darin Brooks and Rena Sofer were fantastic. They both showed yesterday especially that they are great actors and already are fitting in on the show. Brad Bell honestly can’t seem to make a wrong move. His Daddy would be very proud of the great soap he’s writing and producing right now.

    As for Y&R…can we please watch your version, Jamey?

  4. Avatar of SoapArmageddon
    SoapArmageddon

    [quote=Duchess].. It was a great move to make Heather Tom basically the star of the show. They’ve turned her character into Victori-Katie and I’m loving it! She’s giving me Victoria Newman heading up Brash and Sassy flashbacks in a good way. …[/quote]

    Love this!!!!

    I will admit though that whenever Katie has a big, dramatic scene, I half expect her to clutch her chest and croak, “I’m coming, Elizabeth.”

  5. Avatar of Yoryla
    Yoryla

    Omg, I felt Jamey’s pain and passion towards Y&R while reading this, it truly is frustrating as heck. The ingredients, the characters, the interactions and the storylines are right there, in front of these people at Y&R. Have they really not watched a single episode of the show? They must have. I know JG must have, what about JFP? Does she really not get it, or does she just not care, and only demands for “Her Y&R” to be shown. It’s lunacy.

    I have to say, it’s always good to hear about ratings going up, but GH did nothing to deserve these increases really. The show is not good at the moment! The best storyline this week was the Laura/Luke/Tracy storyline with the intertwined Monica/Lesley scenes, beats were played and old rivalries awakend. I’m also enjoying Britt & Nik immensely, as well as Brad’s shenanigans. That’s about it. The so-called “fight” for ELQ has long since deteriorated.

    B&B concerning Katie/Bill/Brooke/Karen was everything. I’m still not feeling Liam/Hope/Wyatt and the Caroline/Rick/Maya thing is a farce and a snoozefest. I’m liking Rena Sofer but I’m worried at what her place will be in this show.

    DAYS should have gotten only increases. It is still the cream of the crop! The scenes at the school opening last were everything. The Sami/Adrienne feud has been an amazing slow burning one of animosity, and if this latest twist doesn’t bring out the done-wrong, scorned Sami I don’t know what will! And those of you who have watched today’s epi know what Kristen’s gonna do next!!! It’s gonna be EPIC! :D

  6. Avatar of booze26
    booze26

    @Duchess

    I dont think Brad has any intention to turn Katie into the star of this show. The character till now (even after last week) is just not strong enough. I explained it before in a post, when somebody screamed for Thorne to come back,but the only tywo characters that this show needs are Brooke and Bill. (amd its not because of the actors but the characters) Everyone else is replacable. You ahve no Logan family without Brooke and you ahve no Spencer family without Bill. But Katie, Donna, Rick, Liam and so on…are not as important for the show.

    A lot of people think in actors, but an actor never brings in the rating. Its the character that decides whats succesfull. Look at the casting at Y&R and GH and even DAYS. You can bring all the big names, it wont change anything if the characters are not strong enough on their own. The only two characters on B&B who have that are Bill and Brooke.

    So Katie may be all Victoria like, I for one like it, but she is not going to be the star of the show, because the character is just flat. There is not enough depth.

  7. Avatar of Cornfed
    Cornfed

    Jamey — what you call Olivia’s “hilarious visions” most ppl referred to as “CAMPY AS CAMPY CAN GET! Just sayin.

    [quote=Yoryla]DAYS should have gotten only increases. It is still the cream of the crop! The scenes at the school opening last were everything. The Sami/Adrienne feud has been an amazing slow burning one of animosity, and if this latest twist doesn’t bring out the done-wrong, scorned Sami I don’t know what will! And those of you who have watched today’s epi know what Kristen’s gonna do next!!! It’s gonna be EPIC! :D[/quote]

    Yoryla, THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU. Haven’t seen yesterday’s or today’s, but i could write a book on everything Days is doing right, and most of it has to do with the WRITING. Every beat is played. Even *throwaway* scenes of Jennifer visiting Kristin are the kind of stuff that most fans clamor for, what most fans of GH have been screaming about for months now. “Where’s so and so? Shouldn’t so and so be there to do this or that?” This show has improved beyond my wildest dreams, never would’ve predicted this before, and i’m guessing it has more to do with Lorraine Brodderick than anyone else!

  8. Avatar of Jamey Giddens
    Jamey Giddens

    Iowahawkeye I find Olivia hilarious. I don’t write from the vantage of “most ppl.” I write it from my vantage point. I am loving DAYS, have been saying so for months. Rate has been a big factor. As for GH and Franco, I recently dedicated an entire column to what is wrong with the Franco story.

  9. Avatar of Cornfed
    Cornfed

    Why is Jamey suggesting fixes for DOOL but nada for GH? HUH? Rafe is only on one day a week right now, it’s hardly worth mentioning…Where the RoHo/Frodd mess on GH is front and center day after day after day after day…

    I do now see that Jamey addresses the epic MESS that is GH, in the Y/R section. Thank goodness!

  10. Avatar of yojoromo4469
    yojoromo4469

    [quote=TraceyAbbot101]I blame Dylan for putting Y&R’s audience to sleep.[/quote]

    I definitely agree with you on this one. Too bad it isn’t him leaving, instead of Big Red.

  11. Avatar of YRFan90
    YRFan90

    Daytime Confidential – thank you for both building an environment where fans can unite in their love for all things soapy as well as for consistently offering entertaining content! I’ve been a fan of Y&R for 24 years and a fan of DC for 4, though I think this is my first post. :)

    Jamie – You made so many valid points on how though Y&R has lost its way, it could regain its footing on the compelling, true-to-history, story telling it has had several times in its 40 years on the air.

    STORYTELLING
    Is anyone other than Josh G. writing the show? If he is carrying the brunt or entirety of writing, that could help explain beats being missed (Victor/Jack re: Summer’s paternity), inconsistent story pacing (Micheal/Lauren/Fen/Carmine vs. the anti-Winters family Blogger) and the loss of details that have been Y&R’s foundation for quite some time (Corporate intrigue, core characters driving story with newbies there to support the momentum). One person really can’t write an entire show of this magnitude.

    DISTRACTIONS
    I find myself fast forwarding Dylan/Chelsea as I don’t see why we should be invested in their pairing knowing its a sham ticking down the moments until its exposed. They are an example of the imbalance on Y&R – non core characters seen practically daily as where the Core appear rarely (Nikki) or are trapped in limbo (Jill). Also though I love the character of Jack, his indignation over not being able to raise Summer is overshadowed by the reality his eldest Keemo ceases to exist or ever be referenced. Was Keemo even listed on that note Jack wrote to his loved ones when trapped under the rubble of that explosion a few years back? Asian markets are pivotal in the growth of a new product, such as Jabot’s budding fashion line. Keemo could easily be written into this, feeling abandoned by Jack and standing in the way of global product growth due to his own business connections. Though I applaud the expanded presence of African Americans, there is still a startling lack of other ethnicity not to mention a lack of diversity. Why is the show not exploring a gay storyline (example – Kevin mentors a down-and-out criminal while struggling with an unprepared attraction towards the guy)? Is Days hurting in loss of viewers/ratings by its numerous gay characters that are being written into compelling storytelling? That doesn’t appear to be the case.

    KATHERINE’s MEMORIAL
    I struggle not to think this will prove to be a missed opportunity to further storyline as well as reintroduce Chancellors into the fold. I am hopeful the delayed filming of the memorial is due to the time needed to secure the return, even if brief, of characters that truly need to be present (even if some are played by different actors, though that could be “new face overload” along with the others) such as Tucker, Mac, JT, Nina, and the Phillip Chancellors. I’ve been a loyal fan through all of the chaos of past people at the helm, and will continue to tune in, even if the Memorial is not done to the caliber it can/should be but I find myself hitting that FF button far too easily and often, which is disappointing.

    Thanks for the opportunity to rant!

    -Tony

  12. Avatar of fmat55
    fmat55

    [quote=booze26]@Duchess

    I dont think Brad has any intention to turn Katie into the star of this show. The character till now (even after last week) is just not strong enough. I explained it before in a post, when somebody screamed for Thorne to come back,but the only tywo characters that this show needs are Brooke and Bill. (amd its not because of the actors but the characters) Everyone else is replacable. You ahve no Logan family without Brooke and you ahve no Spencer family without Bill. But Katie, Donna, Rick, Liam and so on…are not as important for the show.

    A lot of people think in actors, but an actor never brings in the rating. Its the character that decides whats succesfull. Look at the casting at Y&R and GH and even DAYS. You can bring all the big names, it wont change anything if the characters are not strong enough on their own. The only two characters on B&B who have that are Bill and Brooke.

    So Katie may be all Victoria like, I for one like it, but she is not going to be the star of the show, because the character is just flat. There is not enough depth.[/quote]

    I couldn’t disagree more. Katie’s character was nothing until the “actress” Heather Tom took over the role. If you don’t have an actress who can pull off the role, the role is not going to be the driving force. The depth you speak of about Brooke the Ho and Bill the cad are not the only 2 reasons why viewers are interested in the Bold and the Beautiful worldwide. As with any soap, you need the right combination of the right actor in the right role with the right story. Not simply 2 characters.

  13. Avatar of RealityCheck 33
    RealityCheck 33

    Most of your analysis of Y&R is on the money, but I like Jack and Adam’s connection. It flies in the face of their past, but I like the fact that they respect each other and genuinely get along. Each character is in need of a bromance partner, plus Peter Bergman and Michael Muhney have great chemistry with one another on screen.

    You can flush FOJ Steve Burton. He’s a horrible actor and stiff. Send his sorry ass back to Port Charles ASAP.

  14. Avatar of pjc722
    pjc722

    I have to agree with REALITYCHECK33… whenever Adam is paired with Victor and they are true father and son I am BORED TO TEARS!!! Adam should always be the black sheep and shunned from the family.

    But could we make the reason why Victoria dislikes Adam more substantial than JUST BECAUSE?! Seriously, if there is one character that deserves to fall down the stairs and be in a coma, it’s Victoria… or as someone so APTLY and EXPERTLY nicknamed her WHINEtoria. When we see Heather Tom as fierce as she is over at B&B I wish that the show would recast immediately or rewrite the character.

    The Summer story started out for me to be one HUGE exciting iconic Y&R story only to quickly be revealed and Jack to be made out to be a softy and Nick not to be hated by anyone. Why couldn’t Nikki be disgusted in her son and have a hard time with it. Or Avery give back his ring because it goes against everything she is about because NICK’s supposed act was the most selfish thing a man could do to another man, woman and child.

    I think it’s great having a Jack and Adam friendship because of their mutual disgust and desire to top Victor Newman.

    But there are sooooo many other holes in this show from all the newbies with nothing to do and no direction (as characters) and the stop and go romances and plot twists. Neil’s story better reveal that Drucilla is alive and well otherwise I am just not invested in the last few months.

  15. Avatar of pjc722
    pjc722

    The reveal of Sharon being the culprit of the paternity switch and so early on in the story is a miss! This story could be giving up high points for a whole year!

    Imagine if Nick and Avery… completely oblivious to the fact that supposedly Nick destroyed his child’s life so he and Avery cavort in the stairwell of a building… discover Phyllis lying down on the ground of the stairwell and just assume she fell. Over time we could see Sharon start to unravel. This could take months and Michelle Stafford could still be gone from the show. Jack could develop his relationship with Summer and the NOW DISGUSTINGLY creepy story of Kyle wondering where he and Summer go from here would be a thing of the past.

    As Sharon unravels, Phyllis is recast and returns to town but can’t remember what happened in the stairwell. It would be great to see Summer shun Nick because no matter what he was as a father from 1-18, at 18 he stopped being a father with his supposed lie. It could be a great story to see Nick gutted by this and for him to fall into some sort of addiction (well, if they didn’t have the Abbott boys cornering that market on addiction with Fen following suit with his drug addiction and his uncle Kevin’s addiction to stealing).

    Sure, the actual story is fake but it would be amazing to see that Sharon’s act … which Victor again orchestrated …. destroyed SOOOOOO many people’s lives! It would be even better if when Sharon completely unravels and causes great damage and everything is revealed that Victor truely is behind it all and he is ultimately destroyed.

    Can you imagine Nick’s fury not only when he discovers Sharon’s duplicity… and Phyllis’ fury… but how Nick will finally feel towards his father?! Or Jack that Victor destroyed MORE people by his actions to destroy Jack. Or Noah’s towards his grandfather? Nikki’s?! Summer’s life is gutted again and this time by her grandfather. Even Tracey could get involved because HER DAUGHTER’s heart runs in his body!!

    Adam would be key to making everyone remember that Victor is far worse than he is and making sure that Victor remembers everything that Vic did to Adam when his past evil actions were revealed.

    This could be the ultimate take down of Victor Newman. The only one by his side would be WhineToria, of course.

    But, of course, in this day and age of RIGHT NOW FAST mentality of soaps, a great build up has turned into a sloppy sex act with a 40 year old virgin who reaches climax before ever getting it out of his pants. The lead up was fun but then the overall reaction is “oh. ok. It’s not a big deal. That happens to a lot of people”

  16. Avatar of thecourt99
    thecourt99

    I am not enjoying GH right now, but I am happy that someone is. The reality for me is that I began FF’ing Franco early in the story. I hate the character, and while I believe that every character can be redeemed, the DVD was too much too soon. In the process of FF’ing Franco and other characters talking about Franco, I found that I watched GH less and less. Now, I am out of the habit and will only watch when I see certain characters. Yup, Franco has been front and center long enough for me to break a habit. The other stories, I just don’t care about anymore as it has been too long since I have watched them. Oh well.

    Y&R is another story, I am getting back into Y&R since MAB left. I must say, I like the characterization, but I am starting to feel that we went from one extreme with MAB to the other. Y&R has always been slow, but this is too slow.

    I dislike what is being done to Sharon, but I stopped liking her under MAB. Her antics no longer touch me because I don’t care about the character anymore.

    I don’t like Adam either, but I have finally accepted that the Victoria that I used to love (back when Victor pitted Victoria against Nick all the time) is gone. I don’t like Adam and Victor as buddies, but I don’t want them to be outright enemies either. I like them with a distrustful friendship. I think Jamey had a great idea to have Noah want to join the company and pit Nick against Adam that way. Victoria should continue to be a non-factor.

    With the Newman in-fighting, I want Adam and Jack to be enemies as well. This way an Abbott/Newman feud can continue. I have never understood why Jack still hates Victor for how he treated Ashley back in the day…but is buddy buddy with Adam who used Ashley for his own revenge against Jack. Abby even tolerates Adam. Ashley is no longer on canvas, but what happened happened. Ashley accused Adam of all of those deeds, and Adam sued her. It seems like this is no longer even a focus.

  17. Avatar of ChrisGa
    ChrisGa

    First off, don’t watch GH at all but did read Jamey’s synopsis and loved the Roxette(one of my fave old-school music duos)name-drop, even if it was in the service of a show I just can’t get into.

    Regarding DAYS, I can honestly say I haven’t been this into a soap since the early ’90s when Beverlee McKinsey was OWNING(in every sense of the word)Guiding Light as Alex(of course, the entire canvas was hopping back then). Every episode just milks every ounce of drama from every minute of screen time–even Dannifer has become tolerable(and now that Theresa has set her eyes on Daniel the tension between her and newly-minted, slightly pissed-off snark queen Jen should only increase). And glad to finally see Rafe awake–yeah, I actually like Rafe–and again sharing scenes with the beautiful and ageless Lauren Koslow (gotta say, Jamey said in a podcast awhile back that Kate was the sexiest woman in Salem and, as much as I love Kristen and Nicole, I gotta agree with him).

    Y&R? I mean, what can you say? Jamey was pretty spot on with his assessment although, like a couple of other posters, I do like the Jack/Adam friendship. Let’s be real here, Adam will NEVER be accepted as a “real” Newman, no matter the DNA. He’ll always be the proverbial black sheep and it makes total sense for him to align himself with Jack, at least on a personal friendship level. Personally, I kinda see Jack as almost a surrogate father for Adam and it’s one of the few things on the show that I actually enjoy.

  18. Avatar of pferrando
    pferrando

    I’m hoping that by having Jill back in town and all around, that it means they are getting ready to have her front and center and interacting with everyone once Kay’s death is written on screen.

    I’m not of the opinion that all is as dire as described above, however, the tell all will be what they are able to do with Jill and Kay.

    AND I pray that MAYBE we may see another Kay back at YR soon!!!!

  19. Avatar of Lindiana Jones
    Lindiana Jones

    At 53 years young, this long time GH viewer is excited to see some characters my age that I actually recognize. Yes some of the story lines are silly. Yes Franco as a blond when a few weeks ago he was a brunette with the name of Todd makes no sense. But I am LOVINGLOVINGLOVING Maura West as the femme fatale with fingernails filed to sharp points.

    As for Y&R, I don’t watch it. But I certainly can understand the down tick in viewers. They have JFP running the show, the same woman who nearly pushed GH right off the air. Why anyone would EVER hire her after what she did to GH astounds me. I guess it is because our little soap world is so incestous. They rarely bring in new blood, they just recycle, reuse & reduce ratings with the same old producers and writers.

    You know what soap is really good right now? One Life to Live on OWN. That’s what a bit of new DNA in the mix will do for an ailing daytime drama.

  20. Avatar of pjc722
    pjc722

    THE BOLD AND HTE BEAUTIFUL should be proud of itself because has created a new story of POWER and CORPORATE fighting and a woman scorned that could katapult this show to the top of the ratings if it plays it out well and doesn’t sink in its power.

    Heather Tom can carry a show like no other actress out there. She is an exotic beauty with a talent not matched by many actresses on daytime right now. I know that is great praise that will garner a list of other actresses from people OR are EFFIN crazy comments to me, but that’s my opinion.

    When asked on Y&R to cry… she had the tears. When asked on Y&R to be angry… she brought the venom. When asked on Y&R to be romantic and sweet and the stereotypical “ladylike”… she was demure and beautiful. And she brought ALL OF THAT TO B&B!! This Katie is a far cry from the original weak Katie from the show’s beginning. Heather Tom still shows her insecurity but this Heather Tom “Katie” adds strength in that she uses her insecurity as a strength to fight.

    The bonus to Heather Tom’s Katie is that she is a modern woman. Bill cheated on her once and Katie forgave him. Bill cheated on her a second time, or though she thought, and the stress of it caused a heart attack and a wimpering return to the old Katie… all because her sister Brooke and Donna convinced her Bill was good. Then she discovered he did cheat AND WITH HER SISTER, and Katie straightened her back, pulled her hair back and went out and took over!!

    Where on daytime do you see this?! No where!!!

    On this show, alone, you have a doctor who is a nosy body and latching on to any man that will have her (even one that dumps her every other year). You have a woman who constantly has unprotective sex that gets her pregnant (thank god not ill) every time. You have two beautiful and smart young women fighting over the same weak and spineless but handsome nice guy who asks every time MARRY ME when one is on his arm. And you have a beautiful vivacious and smart enough to get 50% of everything in a divorce and lose it all woman.

    Heather Tom’s Katie is what most daytime woman characters should be right now.

    On Y&R, where are these women?! Lauren is the closest one but she cheated but otherwise is a fighter right now. Avery? Cries too much and overlooks all the bad things. Chelsea and Chloe? Lied the exact same way to get a man. Abby? Not with this recast. Lily?! Seriously, she just got a job and isn’t really that strong. Leslie?! When not with Neil she is just like Katie. Strong. Fierce and beautiful. Put her next to Neil, and I am bored with her lack of fight. Jill?! She screams and gets nothing done. Victoria? Please no need to mention why not. Nikki? She keeps going back to an abuser.

    Days? Kate is strong and tough but isn’t in control of her life. Stefano is a cartoonish villian who ALWAYS gets the best of her and she has yet to be more powerful. Sami?! She is tough but her actions always lead to another issue that spirals out of control. Jennifer?! A whiny woman who has a job, only. Nicole?! Sorry, somewhere along the way to the rectory she is on the fence and I’m still trying to figure out why when this actress could be amazing on this show. Too many characters who fit the same bill on this show. HOPE is the only one who is relatable as a woman and a role model for me in my books.

    General Hospital?! Not one woman on here can do anything without the assistance of a man. Tracey?! She has luke all the time and she is just hot air (Love the character but not strong). Carly?! She is a bully and there is nothing great about that. Sabrina? Please. Liz? She needs to move on from her past mistakes like Katie and then maybe she will be the one. Maxie?! Lulu?! nah. Skye was one in my books but the show doesn’t want that.

    Basically, HEATHER TOM’S KATIE is the BOMB!!! Don’t waste this story Bill Bell Jr!! Play it out. Have it become a story to be proud of and that moves the show forward and away from the weak silly women stories where she needs a man to be whole.

    LOVE HEATHER TOM

  21. Avatar of Cornfed
    Cornfed

    PJC, wonderful, detailed, passionate post, loved it! Tho i gotta say, you HAVE to have ppl making constant mistakes in judgment or you have NO SHOW or no drama. Kristin pretty much controls her own destiny, but is torn between revenge, or her love for a man she set out to use in the beginning. Then her revenge will be her ultimate downfall.

    I gotta admit i wasn’t a huge Heather Tom fan back in the day…i sorta felt she won all her Emmys due to the controversial “block voting” that they’ve now put an end to in daytime after WAY too long. Larger casts (Y/R) always got the nominations…and which arguably led to Rowell being blacklisted for a nomination her last year. But the way you sold me on Katie, Tom, and her story, i’m sorta tempted to check out B&B! Good job.

  22. Avatar of Divatude58
    Divatude58

    Y&R needs to take it all back to the boardroom. Period. All Newmans need to be at Newman…all Abbots need to be at Jabot. Let Neil create his own company (could be rival department stores to Fenmore’s) and have the Winters and Fenmore’s stuck in the middle. The end. Because all this going around town bouncing off each other is not entertaining. At all.

    Like Jamey, I am so over Adam versus Victor. It’s stupid. Adam should be a rival to his siblings for who will run Newman when Victor dies. He should not be a rival to his father. They can have animosity sure. But them being rivals. NOT!

  23. Avatar of hey mon
    hey mon

    Sadly, The Show will be going the opposite way that was advised b Jamey.

    We will be ‘treated’ to yet another month of ‘Who is Rose?’, and what did Neil do in Evanston when he was recuperating from Karen a few years back? Me-thinks there will be a major ret-con where the new girl in Cane’s life will be Lily’s half-sister.

    I see a love story already blossoming between Noah and Summer. That will send Cra-cra Sharon panicking in few months from now, when she realizes she unleashed Bridget and Ridge on the world. And of course, she will have her own ‘paternity moment’ on herhands.

  24. Avatar of pookerella
    pookerella

    LOL I said the exact same thing, there s no bigger set of BULLIES than “team Taylor” (ugh). They also seem to have a huge problem telling the difference between the actress and the role. It’s not really Hunter’s fault. The massacred her charter making her the exact opposite of what made it great way back when. What happened to the character Taylor when she held Brooke’s hand after she found out about her engagement to Ridge? She’s running over Forrester wives, had a drinking binge, and became the most pathetic excuse for a psychiatrist character on TV since Dr. Bellows on I Dream Of Jeannie.

  25. Avatar of pferrando
    pferrando

    Diva, like you I miss the drama that we got from Jabot back in the day. We’d see the characters at home and then at work.

    Now all we get is the new restaurant, and Dylan’s warehouse pad.

    How many more scenes of Neil and Leslie talking about Neil’s “new” backstoried life will we sit through?

  26. Avatar of stoney07
    stoney07

    I think the Rose thing is ridiculous. Why haven’t the writers really explored anything with Neil’s parents? Are they alive or dead? I really don’t recall…have they ever even mentioned?

    I remember Leslie questioning Neil about his childhood, and he was pretty vague…why couldn’t the writers draw from that????

Leave a Reply