BREAKING NEWS: Prospect Park Shelves One Life to Live


It looks like the fate of One Life to Live is once again up in the air. According to the LA Times, Prospect Park has shelved the Llanview-set soap until its lawsuit with ABC is over and will instead focus on just All My Children. Lawsuit issues aside, AMC proved much more popular with online audiences than OLTL did.

Prospect Park is shelving "One Life to Live" until the ABC lawsuit is resolved. The team will focus on producing "All My Children," which proved to be the more popular show online. (On TV, "One Life to Live" generated higher ratings.) Writers are currently putting together scripts for a second season.

Kwatinetz is now two years and more than $10 million into the soap business. The learning curve, he said, has been intense.

"Agnes told me this job wasn't for sissies," he said, but added: "If I didn't want to make any mistakes, I would sit back and let other people go figure it out and then just copy them. But then we wouldn't be helping to shape the future of television."

Reportedly, production of All My Children's second season will begin this month.

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  1. Profile photo of Katiebug9624
    Katiebug9624

    How in the HELL can you take OLTL which had better ratings than AMC on network television and screw it up so badly that on the web AMC becomes more profitable?

    They screwed up with OLTL from the writing to the plots its all on PP.

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    jpp1975

    If you read the LAT article, they imply that Cole and Hope going over the cliff (and maybe the death of Tea’s baby) was the whole reason that OLTL is on the rocks. Seriously? Cole, who was off the show until he was brought back as a recast for the last week or so, and Hope, who one of those little soap kid characters too young to have lines or a personality, were sooo integral to the success or failure of OLTL? SERIOUSLY? Even if you disagree with their being killed off, I can’t believe their absence crippled the show. Plus, they could have come back from the dead super easy. I JUST CAN’T with that reasoning.

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    dellygrim

    I think it’s the right decision for now. Hopefully they revisit it later. PP OLTL was not very good. AMC has been the stronger show online. Perhaps it was easier to reinvent because it was in pretty rough shape when it left TV. I hope they take their time and bring back a strong focused OLTL

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    rjm118

    I think it sucks.

    OLTL was hitting its stride in the later episodes. Shelving it means you may as well cancel it again, what little momentum they had will be lost.

    I think they should get better writers, the acting is there, unfortunately the writing was never that great. While I agree AMC was the stronger show its only because the writing was better. The newbies on AMC are mediocre actors at best while the newbies on OLTL were much more skilled.

    sad.

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    appleridge

    My issue is they will lOSE actors whose contracts end at the end of 2013

    If they need Cole & Starr that bad, Recast

    If this is a money issue than be upfront about it

    Just want Truth hear and I dont feel like were getting it

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    angrierblackerman

    Too bad, the show was actually starting to gain its footing. I think it’s a wise decision though, and maybe they can use this downtime to re-tool the show.

    They need to improve the writing, mostly. They have a pretty fantastic cast of vets and soap newcomers just need to tweak the storylines.

    I am sad, but I am happy because now they can focus full energy on All My Children in the interim. All My Children has been spectacular in every aspect, it’s really a well produced show again!

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    Katiebug9624

    Same here Appleridge don’t lie to me and say its something like the death of Cole or Starr needing recast, or John/Todd not being on the show. Erica Kane is not on AMC and its doing much better on the web.

    Just admit that you mucked it up the writing was bad, the money isn’t there don’t sit back and blame someone else.

    If I were the OLTL vets I would leave i’m sorry but if for instance Erika Slezak got an offer I would take it same with Robin Strasser they have been jerked around enough.

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    rapid_roman61

    ABC killed off Cole and Hope Thornhart, no one else. They were not vital characters to the success of OLTL. ABC has gone on with new characters for Kristin Alderson, Michael Easton, and Roger Howarth. So I don’t see the problem. Prospect Park should admit if they didn’t make as much profit on OLTL’s online sales as they needed to keep the show afloat. It’s disingenuous to say the least to keep painting ABC/Disney as the reason they can’t make a go of it.

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    Bob Lamm

    Some of us have been saying all along that Prospect Park didn’t know what they were doing. Now they will be down to 25% of what they began with: no ONE LIFE TO LIVE and half as much ALL MY CHILDREN. No shock here. I’m sorry for those who love ONE LIVE TO LIVE and sorry for those who believe in Prospect Park.

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    nysam

    Sounds like a convenient excuse. At the end of the day the audience wasn’t there for AMC & OLTL, hence the cut back from 4 episodes a week to 2 and then having them go on hiatus. Prospect Park probably doesn’t have the dollars to keep both shows going so they would rather concentrate on 1 and fine tune it. They should have done that in the first place. Worked out the kinks with one soap and take what they learned and apply it to the other.

    I predict there will be an announcement in another couple of weeks that AMC isn’t movign forward.

    Look on the bright side…Kassie Depaiva can now come to GH. They can fire Maura West and she can be Ava. Tuc Watkins can come on as Julian. Kelly Missel can come on as Kiki’s twin sister, Kaka.

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    angrierblackerman

    Sorry NYSAM, Maura West is killing it as Ava, I can’t see anyone else playing this character but her. Also, I think that until they say the show is done for good, people shouldn’t assume it’s curtains. One thing is for sure, where Prospect Park is concerned, there will always be drama!

    I too agree with Appleridge that something smells fishy about the reasoning here. Then again, PP has pulled shady moves before.

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    support oltl

    OLTL is a much better show than AMC, they should have axed AMC. Does AMC have a 6 time emmy winner? aka Erika Slezak?? I don’t think so.
    Hope to be around when AMC gets axed too!!!!!

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    EricasBlackSon

    Very depressed over this news. Bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.

    The irony is that OLTL had a powerful season finale in spite of an uneven, lackluster season. The opposite was true with AMC.

    Very concerned for the actors and crew. They don’t need this nonsense hanging over their lives.

    Don’t understand the incompetence of Prospect Park with all their years in this business. Very concerned about the daytime industry as a whole.

    Are we really about to go through this AGAIN???

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    soapjunkie88

    I feel sorry for the actors & the crew who trusted what was said before. It’s not fair to them to now once again have the future of the show up in the air.

    The lawsuit against ABC is unnecessary in my opinion. It’s going to cost a lot of money. Not to mention that both parties are to blame here.

    OLTL already reintroduced Todd and if they need these other characters so bad recast them. Hope and Cole’s death can easily be undone.

    Some might say that it’s great that Prospect Park tried and that we at least got this first season. I say that it wasn’t worth all the chaos in the beginning of the year.

    It all could have been so easy with PP agreeing that Todd, Starr and John can stay at GH and they do some crossovers to get the attention for the online version OLTL. It would have been great for OLTL to have this connection. Both shows would have profit from it. Now you Stripper Kiki, FrankenTodd and Dr. Silas on GH and OLTL’s future remains to be seen!?!?!?

    Doesn’t sound right.

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    MsAgentProvocateur1

    AMC has definitely been the stronger show but s-l-o-w-l-y OLTL was beginning to find its footing.

    I’m glad that at least AMC is returning and hopefully it’s success will convince PP/TOLN to give OLTL another chance down the line.

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    SoapsRHere2Stay

    OLTL was BAD online and was in GREAT shape when it left air. It’s sadly the writers fault. They turned Dorian into a caricature of herself. They had Natalie moping around instead of getting her back broke by Cutter. They didn’t feature future leading man Cutter more. They focused on Nora radio show WtF? This wasn’t OLTL that we left with. Ron C must but grinning ear to ear. In my Fantasia voice “What would you be without me?”

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    nysam

    I love Maura West as Ava and agree with the wonderful job she is doing. I was joking about her being recast….sort of.

    I wouldn’t be surpised if Cartoony are hard at work thinking about how to get some of the OLTL-ers to the already bloated GH as new characters. I give it less than 6 months before we hear some Llanview-ites will be joining GH as new characters.

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    giogio

    Im with Appleridge…recast. We’re all adults, I think we would be able to handle it and get used to it. I have been watching on OWN, and shit, last night I got so into it. Dirty whores. I want my Dorian.

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    Forever21

    [quote=DaytimeFan0001]What do you think? Do you think it has more to do with the pending lawsuit, or the state of the show it’s numbers?[/quote]

    PP is a mess and they have no money. They have defferred licensing fees that are due early 2014. Its been evident for a while now that all was not well at PP. Anytime someone pointed out that truth they were accused of not being supportive. I am also skeptical about AMC.

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    SwanQueen59

    [quote=nysam] I wouldn’t be surpised if Cartoony are hard at work thinking about how to get some of the OLTL-ers to the already bloated GH as new characters. I give it less than 6 months before we hear some Llanview-ites will be joining GH as new characters.[/quote]

    PLEEEAAASSSE NNNOOOO!!!!!!!…. 0:)

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    lfad

    [quote]I wouldn’t be surpised if Cartoony are hard at work thinking about how to get some of the OLTL-ers to the already bloated GH as new characters.[/quote]

    lol Cartoony.

    I feel horrible for the crew and cast of OLTL. I hope this is really just a hiatus, but there have been too many shows that have been canceled after going on “indefinite hiatus.”

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    liason4real

    No! It’s bad enough that this is the last year for USA’s Burn Notice and now PP is taking away OLTL? No!

    My major issues with OLTL began with how Victor Lord Jr. showed up alive without any drama. Seriously? This story should have played out for weeks instead of one episode! I don’t remember Viki and company mentioning Jessica, Ryder or Brody.

    I hope PP gets their act together and Nora really needs to drop that f*cking radio show!

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    angrierblackerman

    [quote=support oltl]OLTL is a much better show than AMC, they should have axed AMC. Does AMC have a 6 time emmy winner? aka Erika Slezak?? I don’t think so.
    Hope to be around when AMC gets axed too!!!!![/quote]

    Respectfully, I disagree! OLTL had been a mess until Frank Valentini and Ron Carlivati helped repair it on ABC. AMC has always been the better brand, the more recognizable brand. I also think that OLTL fans left the show long ago, whereas AMC fans kept hanging on to it, and to a certain degree, followed it online.

    AMC always had better characters, better looking actors, better sets, better costumes, music, everything was better than OLTL. OLTL is the homely stepsister of AMC in every way. AMC is Natalie and OLTL has always been Janet.

    You can go to small fishing villages in Malaysia and they know who Erica Kane/Susan Lucci is but even people in NYC don’t have a clue who Erika Slezak is. Not to disrespect her or her achievements, but there just is no comparison.

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    giogio

    liason4real- When the family saw Victor they acted like he was back from vacation. If something like that happened in real life, people would have been dropping like flies trying to get a grip that their loved one was not really dead. You are right. That should have had DRAMA!!!

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    EricasEvilTwin

    i knew when the conflict started fans would be worse off and we are. OLTL was kept alive in a way for a full year on gh and i was waiting for natalie to show up so they could have an absolutely EPIC Nat/Sam smackdown and the entire thomas is lorenzo story was just itching to be told. now with me, ka and roho playing different characters, not only did gh become a mess (frankly i dont think any of the three choices they went with are half the characters todd, starr and john were), now when pp goes belly up we will lose all connection to the oltl characters whatsoever. there will never be a time when clint b. comes in seduces tracy and tries to steal elq. we will never have dorian or dani visiting starr. matthew can never get an internship at elq when they need summer youth.

    PP sucks and they have been dishonest about their handling of things for a while now. Sorry but thats how i feel.

    and btw i find this whole the show cant survive in the aftermath of what abc did stuff BEYOND insulting. PC died forcing them to kill of asa and the show survived. Tina and cord exited and the show survived. the killed off gabrielle and the show survived. kevin joey and kelly all went to london and the show survived. ROHO left before and the show survived. Ditto characters like larry and wanda wolek, vikis daughter megan, not to mention karen, jenny kat and marco – all characters that are off the canvas and the show survived. Yet im to believe a child that existed almost entirely off canvas (teas kid was only mentioned at the end and the pregnancy was all during the pre pp time) another child that we hadnt seen much of after the whole custody story (hope) and the characters of starr and john are all too great of a loss to be able to cope. Sorry but i loved ALL of these characters and admired the actors that played them and i would argue that their position pretty much belittles all of the past history of the show. I love ME and im certainly not minimizing what i think he brings to the table, but if the show can lose PC and still be fantastic, they most certainly can survive the loss of john mcbain.

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    brettyboy

    Unless this is just a soft way of telling us that the show is cancelled (which could well be the case), I don’t see how this changes anything. AMC and OLTL don’t tape at the same time and AMC season 2 was supposed to be taped before OLTL anyway wasn’t it?

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    DaytimeFan0001

    PP keeps screwing up their distribution deals. Granted, the OWN run was probably not going to be extended, but without proper distribution it’s over.

    It concerns me that they will have to renew their licensing coming 2014. You’d think they’d be scrambling to get a second season in before the expiration….

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    thecourt99

    okay…i have a question. Even if PP decides to shelve OLTL, they still own the characters for the rest of the 10 year period, correct? I thought that was the case, but I want to be sure.

    secondly…i agree that OLTL was the worst of the 2 in the online version, however I think that it is a matter of PP wanting to make only so much change. OLTL was on a high when it went off air, but why? The tale of 2 Todds! That was the key story when the show went off the air. Given the amount of sacrifices that were required to take the show online, I can imagine that the loss of RH was more crucial than anything else. They were able to use him temporarily, but I don’t think they had enough time to create a HEA for TnB AND provide some sort of resolution to that story. As many have said, they were JUST starting to get some traction with the story. I really think that the lawsuit is a shell game, but it is about RH more than anyone else. Since they couldn’t really start off where OLTL ended, they had to start from scratch and re-establish some things….and they ran out of time.

    just my opinion. their writers were not strong enough to overcome the issues that they encountered.

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    gslam

    Leave it to the Ron Carlivati haters to find SOME way of working their hate for RC into the comments section of a story that has nothing to do with him. Tired.

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    Yoryla

    They should just cut their losses and cancel OLTL altogether. It’s clear they’re not interested in writing for that show. Put all the money and efforts into AMC.

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    MotownKate4Soaps

    I don’t watch either AMC or OLTL, and didn’t watch when they were on ABC until I found out some of the OLTL characters were going to GH. Then I wanted to get to know them a bit to learn the background, so watched the last several ABC episodes of OLTL. The shelving of OLTL sucks for their fans, but they took way too long to get the online versions of both shows off the ground in the beginning which can make people lose interest. Also, it can be hard for traditionalist TV viewers like myself to shift from turning on a TV set to booting my PC up to watch a show on a much smaller screen. I am aware of OWN’s airing of the shows but the network is so far down the on-screen guide, that I’m sure many may not have the patience to look for it.
    I sort of wish OWN had gotten it together much sooner. I used to watch ATWT and among other fans tried my best to get the CBS network to resurrect it. Also, many wrote to OWN to try getting the show on the network. But to no avail, and then suddenly Oprah decides to bring on AMC and OLTL?
    Sorry to say, but it seems like maybe OLTL really should have only had “one life to live”. Jury’s still out on AMC.

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    katehhoward

    OLTL works best on TV. What really needs to happen is ABC needs to bring OLTL back to television. In that way Roger Howarth can go back and portray Todd instead of Franco. I love all the cast members on the new OLTL, I feel horrible about this. PP should move forward with AMC because it is the less expansive of the two. They have less known performers. OLTL would be expansive because of the big name leads. OLTL had Corbin Bleu for crying out loud…He could not of come at a little price. I want OLTL to be resurrected on television. It still has a following and I really think FV and RC should be the heads of both shows.

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    nysam

    @Katehhoward…

    darling, Corbin Bleu is one step away from waiting tables. I don’t think he was a costly talent. He has worked sporadically since HSM in 2008.

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    Forever21

    [quote=thecourt99]okay…i have a question. Even if PP decides to shelve OLTL, they still own the characters for the rest of the 10 year period, correct? I thought that was the case, but I want to be sure.
    secondly…i agree that OLTL was the worst of the 2 in the online version, however I think that it is a matter of PP wanting to make only so much change. OLTL was on a high when it went off air, but why? The tale of 2 Todds! That was the key story when the show went off the air. Given the amount of sacrifices that were required to take the show online, I can imagine that the loss of RH was more crucial than anything else. They were able to use him temporarily, but I don’t think they had enough time to create a HEA for TnB AND provide some sort of resolution to that story. As many have said, they were JUST starting to get some traction with the story. I really think that the lawsuit is a shell game, but it is about RH more than anyone else. Since they couldn’t really start off where OLTL ended, they had to start from scratch and re-establish some things….and they ran out of time.
    just my opinion. their writers were not strong enough to overcome the issues that they encountered.[/quote]

    They have to pay licensing fees for these characters. They deferred the 2013 payment, the next payment is in 2014. They don’t have the money to produce 2 shows. Will they have the money in January to pay their fees? if they do, will they want to incur annual licensing fees for the next several years for a show they aren’t producing?

    They botched what should have been their biggest story at the beginning with Victor’s return.

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    appleridge

    After calming down @Prospectpk & @TOLN I really hope there will be a second season of @OneLifeToLive. I will continue to help support your efforts to get to season 2 as well as watch season 2 of @AllMyChildren. I love both these shows and so want to see more of Llanview and Pine Valley. I hope in the end, Both shows come back and that the #OLTL cast & crew get to live another day in Llanview

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    Jon

    Had to laugh at the comment on Corbin Bleu. I doubt his cost was a budget breaker. He’s not an A List actor and I wouldn’t even consider him to be on the B List!

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    Ms 45

    I am beyond heartsick at this news, yet far from surprised. OLTL’s numbers online and on OWN were not as good as AMC’s. The show did struggle but was finally getting back on track. Once again, we’re the stepchild, cast aside. I do understand this decision from a business standpoint, they want to cut their loses and focus solely on AMC. The lawsuit seems like a money grab, a chance to recoup some of their investment. And shelving OLTL lends credence to their claim, though it’s a joke to any soap viewer that killed off characters mean the show can’t go on — just bring ‘em back from the dead like every other show if they’re that important! Since when is rewriting history a problem? I want to believe this isn’t it for Llanview, PA, but I’m having a hard time feeling anything positive right now. This totally, completely, and utterly sucks. This time around, I’m more sad than mad though.

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    Nk3play2

    I am no longer giving Prospect Park the benefit of the doubt. These people are FUCKING idiots.

    I will support the shows no matter what, but this is fucking ridiculous. Stop jerking these people around. OLTL and co. were neglected and ignored by ABC for years, and now the same thing is happening at Prospect Park. That fucking information is total and complete bullshit. Everything that went wrong with OLTL was because of the fucking writing. If they wanted Starr, Cole and Hope back that bad, they could’ve fucking recast. They recast Matthew, and Destiny, which wasn’t very successful IMO, but they DID it.

    The stories were fucking idiotic and there was rarely a pay off. Prospect Park are absolutely making themselves look like idiots and are literally turning peoples lives upside down. That lawsuit is not what is wrong with that show, it is the writing, and they are too fucking incompetent to admit it, and try to fix it.

    At this point the only two people I would trust to help OLTL are Frank Valentini and Ron Carlivati and they are currently keeping me tuned in on OLTL. I’m sorry to say, but I think OLTL is completely done. All it’s gonna take is for majority of those actors to find other gigs.

    I also feel horribly for the OLTL 3, now GH 3, who are constantly being put in the middle of these companies. Stop punishing ABC for the actors not wanting to do OLTL. Whether you had the characters or not, you weren’t gonna write anything descent for them.

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    robertscorpio

    [quote=SwanQueen59][quote=nysam] I wouldn’t be surpised if Cartoony are hard at work thinking about how to get some of the OLTL-ers to the already bloated GH as new characters. I give it less than 6 months before we hear some Llanview-ites will be joining GH as new characters.[/quote]
    PLEEEAAASSSE NNNOOOO!!!!!!!…. 0:)[/quote]

    Only thing I would be cool with is if they brought either Erika Slezak or Robin Strasser over to GH as a member of the Jerome family, maybe the mama.

    Can they figure this lawsuit out please and bring the character of Todd back to GH and get rid of Franco. I’m cool with the Silas and Kiki characters staying but I would prefer RH as Todd instead of Franco on GH.

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    liason4real

    What if PP is dumping OLTL because they heard the rumors that ABC was planning on axing one of their day shows (GH, The View or The Chew) in order to give GMA another hour? GH is expensive to produce so it would make sense if PP is hedging their bet in dumping OLTL in order to pickup GH.

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    Nk3play2

    [quote=brettyboy]A few too many F bombs there but yes you’re right.[/quote]

    I am so sorry for the language. I know most people are saddened, but I wasn’t able to comment so long that my sadness turned into rage. These people are incompetent and cannot admit that they made a mistake with the writing, and just step up and fix it.

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    Daring2bReal

    This is sincerely painful to say, but I’ve had enough of the emotional abuse and amateur actions of Prospect Park. They are systematically dismantling the legacy of these beloved shows and characters. Sometimes, you have to walk away in order to preserve your memories. I have decided that classic episodes that reside on my battered old VHS tapes and recorded DVDs will be how I enjoy OLTL and AMC going forward. Just like those gorgeous episodes of Another World, Santa Barbara, and Sunset Beach. Sometimes, great television shows end. It sucks, but it’s true.

    For me, this rollercoaster ride is over.

    I am going to commit my daily time and emotion supporting shows that have some level of network commitment, and some sort of a grounded, realistic plan going forward. Judge me all that you wish.

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    appleridge

    I Think both will be back and that @prospectpk will have @allmychildren film its entire season 2 and then have @onelifetolive do the same. That way they concentrate on one at a time. When will they air? I bet we dont see them til January 2014

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    TV Gord

    I think they’re going with this line (shelved), because if they admitted the show is cancelled, some people would likely stop watching, and that means the what little money is coming in would soon dry up. I also wouldn’t be surprised if they are just putting off announcing the cancellation of AMC because the finale was just posted, and they want to keep people watching as long as they can.

    Whenever these announcements are made, we have to think about the business reasons behind their wording. They are not making these decisions based on the quality of the shows or the sentimentality of the fans. They are issuing these statements to put the best possible face on a bad situation, and their only concern is moving product.

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    Forever21

    Yeah even as the ship sinks, its not sinking. A wise man once said

    “Sometimes, though, you make a pact with yourself. I’ll pretend there’s nothing wrong if you pretend there’s nothing wrong. It’s called DENIAL, and it’s one of the STRONGEST PACTS in the world. Just ask all those people who were still drinking champagne while the Titanic went down”

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    ChrisGa

    While not surprising, gotta say I’d rather one survive than neither and if I had to choose I’d def pick AMC over OLTL. Granted, OLTL had the much more talented, and better written, younger set–Corbin Bleu, Kelley Missal and Robert Gorrie are all stellar, though I still say Laura Harrier is ten times weaker than AMC’s much-maligned Jordan Lane Price(Celia). AMC’s younger set, by comparison, was abysmally written and questionably talented–the actors who play AJ, Heather and Hunter are all rather terrible(Denyse Tontz and Rob Wilson, however, were both great).

    What AMC really trumped OLTL on was the use of the vets/adult cast. Debbi Morgan, Darnell Williams, Vincent Irizarry, Cady McClain, Lindsay Hartley, Julia Barr, even Thorsten Kaye–all were given very decent-to-great material to play. Plus, Ryan Bittle as JR was a true find(and IMO a far better JR than the vastly overrated Jacob Young)and I loved the intro of Paula Garces’ Lea as a love interest for Zack.

    So yeah, while I’m sad to see OLTL shelved(?), I’m equally happy to see that AMC is soldiering on.

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    dattilofan1

    I was having such as great day…this is terrible news. OLTL had a great finale and I was looking forward to having it back. I love Viki and Dorian and David. My wishlist for the next season was Roxie and/or Rex. That’s what the show was missing. The show was hitting it’s stride and should have been allowed to keep going. There were some comments about Corbin Bleu that I thought was pretty unfair. He’s a rare young actor who can hold his own in the presence of vets like Viki or Clint. He’s a really good actor and a professional. I feel the same way about the actor who plays Matthew. Just really good talent that should grow with the show who itself is breaking ground with the transition to the internet and should be allowed to continue doing so. My heart is heavy. If PP is being truthful and awaiting the resolution of this lawsuit then OLTL should be brought back with a purpose: to prove naysayers wrong that this show is worth keeping and investing in. Please bring it back…

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    samIShot

    I hate ABC for dumping OLTL, but this lawsuit is laughable.
    $25M for killing off two characters? One that was not on the show the last year or more before the end of the show and a 3 year old child?

    But even if you ignore that, ITS A SOAP OPERA. Bring them back from the dead, or ignore what happened on GH. It’s a completely different show. They could have just as easily ignored the two deaths.

    This will be laughed out and is just about trying to get $25M they don’t deserve.

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    appleridge

    [quote=Ms 45]When do PP’s rights lapse for OLTL characters? Now that the soap-haters are gone from ABC daytime executive ranks, why not bring back OLTL as a half-hour sister soap to GH (think Y&R and GH) with Frank and Ron overseeing the creative? I won’t let go without a fight!![/quote]

    PP Has rights to both shows for the next TEN years

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    sunshine619

    Lawsuit? ABC set PP up perfectly. Cole could have come back from the dead and started an epic storyline. They could have recast Star and McBain, and as much as I love Roger Howarth, if he chooses to stay with GH (which he should!), OLTL can get by without him. Very disappointed in PP for not being able to overcome this. The lawsuit is just an excuse. Maybe ABC can settle it by buying back OLTL, especially since the soap haters are gone.

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    thecourt99

    [quote=TV Gord]I think they’re going with this line (shelved), because if they admitted the show is cancelled, some people would likely stop watching, and that means the what little money is coming in would soon dry up. I also wouldn’t be surprised if they are just putting off announcing the cancellation of AMC because the finale was just posted, and they want to keep people watching as long as they can.

    Whenever these announcements are made, we have to think about the business reasons behind their wording. They are not making these decisions based on the quality of the shows or the sentimentality of the fans. They are issuing these statements to put the best possible face on a bad situation, and their only concern is moving product.[/quote]

    well…this is the same team that shelved original plans and ultimately brought the shows back at the last minute. Right now, I am not putting anything past anyone.

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    robertscorpio

    [quote=Ms 45]When do PP’s rights lapse for OLTL characters? Now that the soap-haters are gone from ABC daytime executive ranks, why not bring back OLTL as a half-hour sister soap to GH (think Y&R and GH) with Frank and Ron overseeing the creative? I won’t let go without a fight!![/quote]

    Could something like that be in the works? Could be wishful thinking but maybe ABC and PP are coming to some out of court agreements which would allow them to purchase OLTL back from PP. OLTL would be easier to bring back to TV than AMC because of the continuation that its characters had on GH.

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    appleridge

    [quote=robertscorpio][quote=Ms 45]When do PP’s rights lapse for OLTL characters? Now that the soap-haters are gone from ABC daytime executive ranks, why not bring back OLTL as a half-hour sister soap to GH (think Y&R and GH) with Frank and Ron overseeing the creative? I won’t let go without a fight!![/quote]

    Could something like that be in the works? Could be wishful thinking but maybe ABC and PP are coming to some out of court agreements which would allow them to purchase OLTL back from PP. OLTL would be easier to bring back to TV than AMC because of the continuation that its characters had on GH.[/quote]
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    Well Given that PP has the rights to both AMC and OLTL for 10 Years I doubt another company will produce OLTL

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    aveRex

    This is terrible news! I loved One Life and thought it was doing great. How are they measuring these shows? I purchased the subscription through iTunes and would watch 4 to 5 episodes at a time. So, I wonder if that didnt count?

    I dont watch AMC and am not willing to start now. I think I’m just going to give up on soaps as it’s just not worth the investment. :(

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    LisaM

    This isn’t shocking PP has been full of bad news since they started producing the shows. I lost trust in them when they cut the shows, lost the cable deal in Canada and the moment they talked about seasons I knew they were full of it. They are disorganized and their PR department sucks. They didn’t even tell the actors they found out on Twitter today. They blamed viewer habits for cutting the shows. This time they are blaming their bogus lawsuit. They filed it in April and now in September they decided they couldn’t continue without it ending it first. That’s crazy when they are the ones suing and Deadline says if they lose they wont bring back OLTL.
    AMC has been doing better than OLTL because it had better writing. OLTL stopped being interesting the moment Victor Jr. left.

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    mtlemieux

    Hate to say it, but what did they expect since Todd, Victor, Starr, and John left? OLTL has nothing without them! Todd and Blair were better together than Luke and Laura – by far! Bring back Todd and get Todd, Tea and Blair to look for both Victor and Starr and you’ll have a great storyline! Blair and Tea can some quarrels along the way because of Todd and Blair’s relationship, and yet Todd and Tea’s relationship (and trust) can grow as well. Make it just like Luke and Laura’s storyline! They could first find Victor, and then all grow closer as they search for Starr!

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    kristenaldersonfan_21

    the one that i really watch is amc online. but still i think that it sucks for pp to be doing this to the fans. cause when they were on abc i was a huge fan of both shows. and will love to see them both being successful. but i say that the writing that pp has done for oltl hasn’t really been that great and that is my opinion and everyone has a right to there opinion. the writing for amc has been a lot better.

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    thecourt99

    [quote=robertscorpio]Could something like that be in the works? Could be wishful thinking but maybe ABC and PP are coming to some out of court agreements which would allow them to purchase OLTL back from PP. OLTL would be easier to bring back to TV than AMC because of the continuation that its characters had on GH.[/quote]

    I said in a previous post that I don’t put anything past anyone. This is one thing that I doubt will happen. Considering the lawsuit in place, ABC won’t lease those characters back from PP unless it is permament. Further, I doubt any other company would want to enter into a leasing agreement with them lest they end up in a lawsuit a la ABC.

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    pumpkin

    I went back and read article. The article, from my pov, simply states an opinion by the writer. amc was bigger (I would have to go back because I have good memory, just short as they say). It is opinion the way I read it. All the posts keep going on critiquing oltl as it was not good and that is the reason is is shelved for now. I thought from reading articles before this announcement that BOTH shows were doing well. Unless someone can point me in direction of facts about oltl doing poorly, I just think an opinion turned into fact here. I do realize it was behind amc, but I understand it was always on top as far as the online network.

    I think the quality was good. The young group excellent. Stories fantastic. Hopefully any behind-the-scenes problems will be solved. I do not see where it is failing. Financially if PP must pick one they will pick the highest. To do otherwise would be crazy. But to automatically assume oltl is failing has me baffled.

    (One more thing. No offense but I hate long posts and tend to skip most or skim. Not unlike a long resume that gets passed on)

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    J Bernard Jones

    Whenever these announcements are made, we have to think about the business reasons behind their wording. They are not making these decisions based on the quality of the shows or the sentimentality of the fans.

    Exactly. Times 100.

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    HRHjoecool

    All My Children had much higher ratings than One Life to Live when both shows were on the air at this same time – 42 seasons.

    One Life to Live beat AMC for the last 2 seasons, 2009-2010, 2010-2011 when both were on the air. One Life beat AMC in the last 2 seasons by 0.1 percent of a Nielsen ratings which is not significantly significant. The 18 to 49 demographic the one sought by advertisers is a gauage of Nielsen ratings. One Life in the last 2 seasons did well even surpassing General Hospital and AMC. But AMC consistently got better demographic ratings than One Life over the 42 seasons when both were on the air together.

    I miss One LIfe to Live as well. But AMC was by far the more popular show in the ratings, in popular American culture and garnered more Daytime Emmy nominations and wins than One Life. I hope One Life comes back oneline because I miss the residents of Llandview.

    Looking at the historical ratings data:
    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_daytime_soap_opera_ratings

    All My Children hit No. 1 in the ratings for the 1978-79 season. One Life never was No. 1.

    Plus, All My Children had a much tougher time slot historically since The Young and the Restless, As the World Turns, Days of Our Lives and Search for Tomorrow all at one time or another competed directly for either AMC’s entire time slot or partially. Plus, All My CHilden while it was on the air, never had a strong lead-in program. All My Children was the LEAD-IN for One Life to Live.

    Prposect Park paid more to air AMC than OLTL.

    For the 42 seasons that AMC and OLTL were both on the air:

    One Life beat AMC only for 9 seasons. From 1970 to 1973, 1987-1988, 1988-1989, 2009-2010, 2010-2011.

    AMC and OLTL tied for 6 seasons.

    AMC beat OLTL for 25 seasons.

    At one time, All My Children was the most recorded – videotaped program inclusing prime time in the country according to Nielsen.

    In the 1970’s, 30% of AMC’s audience according to Nielsen.

    All My Children consistently beat One Life to Live in the Nielsen ratings.

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    Ms 45

    When do PP’s rights lapse for OLTL characters? Now that the soap-haters are gone from ABC daytime executive ranks, why not bring back OLTL as a half-hour sister soap to GH (think Y&R and BB) with Frank and Ron overseeing the creative? I won’t let go without a fight!!

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    HRHjoecool

    All My Children had much higher ratings than One Life to Live when both shows were on the air at this same time – 42 seasons.

    One Life to Live beat AMC for the last 2 seasons, when both were on the air. One Life beat AMC in the last 2 seasons by 0.1 percent of a Nielsen ratings which is not significantly significant. The 18 to 49 demographic the one sought by advertisers is a gauage of Nielsen ratings. One Life in the last 2 seasons did well even surpassing General Hospital and AMC. But AMC consistently got better demographic ratings than One Life over the 42 seasons when both were on the air together.

    I miss One LIfe to Live as well. But AMC was by far the more popular show in the ratings, in popular American culture and garnered more Daytime Emmy nominations and wins than One Life. I hope One Life comes back oneline because I miss the residents of Llandview.

    Looking at the historical ratings data:
    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_daytime_soap_opera_ratings

    All My Children hit No. 1 in the ratings for the 1978-79 season. One Life never was No. 1.

    Plus, All My Children had a much tougher time slot historically since The Young and the Restless, As the World Turns, Days of Our Lives and Search for Tomorrow all at one time or another competed directly for either AMC’s entire time slot or partially. Plus, All My CHilden while it was on the air, never had a strong lead-in program. All My Children was the LEAD-IN for One Life to Live.

    Prposect Park paid more to air AMC than OLTL.

    For the 42 seasons that AMC and OLTL were both on the air:

    One Life beat AMC only for 9 seasons. From 1970 to 1973, 1987-1988, 1988-1989, 2009-2010, 2010-2011.

    AMC and OLTL tied for 6 seasons.

    AMC beat OLTL for 25 seasons.

    At one time, All My Children was the most recorded – videotaped program inclusing prime time in the country according to Nielsen.

    In the 1970’s, 30% of AMC’s audience according to Nielsen.

    All My Children consistently beat One Life to Live in the Nielsen ratings.

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    t dog

    Aw man OLTL fans, I’m so sorry to hear this. I’m an AMC fan first and foremost, but I feel like we’ve got through this journey together. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if they announced that AMC was being “shelved” as well. As much slack as I want to give PP, I am refraining, and I’d like for you to think about doing the same. Yes, we all know they weren’t ideal, but they at least gave it a shot. Without them, we wouldn’t have gotten a few more months in Llanview or Pine Valley. (I guess it is debatable whether or not that is a good thing or not. Having to lose it again isn’t easier, I’m sure.)

    Ultimately, I still blame ABC and Frons for all of this. It was the network’s laziness that allowed crappy writers (at least in AMC’s case) to take the soaps down a bad road, and it was Frons who wanted to change Daytime and kill off our beloved soaps. Soaps aren’t as profitable as they once were, but two other networks are making it work. Consolidating them into two thirty minute shows and cutting the cast and crew sides were two options that should have been last ditch efforts, for example. However, ABC Daytime and Frons didn’t care enough about us to consider these long time viewers. For them, it is all business. They are who I am still upset with. They are the reason I don’t watch ABC Daytime anymore. They are the reason we’re having to lose our “stories” all over again.

    Don’t get me wrong, PP truly dropped the ball on this one. They bit off more than they could chew (there’s definitely a pun out there for that comment) and our emotions paid the price. Still, I’m grateful that PP tried. It may have just been about business, but I really think PP wanted to deliver. They just weren’t up to par.

    All of this being said, I’m sure you can tell that I feel like AMC is gone for good, as well. It is true. So with that, I think we owe it to everyone, the casts, crews, writers (good and bad), directors, PP, Agnes Nixon, and most of all, each other, the fans, for sticking by our stories. I think we all sacrificed, and as a result, soaps aren’t on life support anymore. They still have some staying power, and maybe, with a little luck, a prayer on Tad and Dixie’s star, they’ll be back again. I mean, who says you only have one life to live?

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    Lindiana Jones

    Hey, PP brought Victor back from the dead. ABC should sue them!

    I enjoyed the OLTL reboot and watched it on OWN. I did not watch OLTL back when it was on ABC so I was a new viewer. I tried to watch AMC on OWN too but I found the stories uninteresting and the acting hackneyed, especially by the younger cast members.

    As a matter of fact, the only thing I did not like about the OLTL s/l from PP was Jack sleeping with his teacher. That was all kinds of illegal and just gag inducing. It might be some adolescent male fantasy but adolescent males as a rule do not watch a great deal of daytime, or online, dramas.

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    liason4real

    Victor Jr. was shown alive on the very last ABC broadcast of OLTL being held by BSC Allison Perkins, so how can ABC sue PP? PP owns the rights to AMC & OLTL characters, dead or alive.

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    TV Gord

    An interesting side note to this story: Larry King’s online talk show, Larry King Now, is coming to Canadian TV (sound familiar?) on CTS starting Monday, and the first show scheduled to air at 3:30pm eastern time is his April interview with the cast of OLTL (Robin Strasser, Erika Slezak, Corbin Bleu, Tuc Watkins and Melissa Archer).

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    FoxCrane

    It is so totally bogus to tie the shut-down of production to the pending lawsuit with ABC. The two should have nothing to do with each other, so the only conclusion to draw is that the show isn’t profitable and can only be sustained if they win the lawsuit. So what happens if they don’t? And even if they do, how will that serve to increase viewership in order to fund future seasons? Where will they get the money next time ’round? Basing production on a “future hope” that you’ll prevail in court and get a windfall of cash from a lawsuit is no way to produce a show; but obviously they’ve chosen litigation over production. And while I wish nothing but the best for OLTL, Prospect Park’s claim that a couple of characters gettin’ killed off has somehow ruined things for them is downright laughable. The threshold for suspension of disbelief has it’s very own standard in daytime, and most shows would actually use a “back from the dead” story as some kind of main event to get press.

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