Which show do you think was the Worst Soap of the Week?
With reference to The Young and the Restless: I think that whoever it was (I am assuming it was the head writer of this show) was twisted mentally to put on such an episode yesterday. That was totally uncalled for, not entertaining and not even watchable anymore. This person/persons should be gone and whoever ok'd it should be gone. It was very dark, twisted and that type of writing has to come with somewhat of a twisted and dark personality. Its not good writing. Its from peope that have holes in their heart. Heaven help what is ahead with these people at the helm. I cant take that heat, so Im getting out of the fire.
Phelps, Phelps, Phelps.
It's all Phelps.
Well if it is Phelps, someone should consider her mental capabilities. It was not the run of the mill "killing off a character" episode. It was all out terror. That kind of stuff might be good in its proper place, but a soap opera? Ive seen kids killed off before, but this was the worst. To see her laying there with only her stripped leggings showing was sick in the frigging head.
How could anyone think B&B came even close? They didn't show some kid get mowed down in some voyeuristic manner. IMO, Y&R needs to pull a Robin from GH and have Libby from Lost holding Delia up for ransom. I would be down with a back from the dead because too many Abbotts have died in the name of the lame ass Newmans (this one is especially annoying because its over f*ckin' vision and nothing life threatening).
Days of our lives was a little off this week. I love GH.. Can't watch BB because of school. YR was ok but I hate that they may kill Delia off!
Although I liked GH this week, I love the picture you used for GH. It's fits
Lol, I also think this picture was VERY approriate for GH. However, that show was great this week.
DAYS was the absolute best!
Y&R was unspeakably horrible, cruel and morbid. It was jusn't that they killed a child, they rubbed the audiences faces in it. I'm sure Phelps got a real kick out of it and is feeling more rejuvenated and energized then ever.
Phelps has now achieved her goal of ruining Y&R. It is beyond awful now. It's unwatchable. Killing children violently is about as low as you can go. CBS and Sony's hands are bloody too by allowing this kind of horror to be unleashed upon Y&R's viewers. This isn't great storytelling, it is a morbid and cynical grab to try to pump up sagging ratings for a once great show. Phelps is a true hag and there's something wrong with her brain to think this is what the audience wants to spend time watching. The show is one big FAIL. Y&R's days are numbered and Phelps will have killed another soap.
Good job Sony and CBS. (eyeroll)
You have to hand it to JFP. She even anticipated our complaints about never seeing Delia growing into a teen, a young adult and later a parent by compressing all of that into one episode...
We'll never be rid of her.
YR all the way this week...I couldn't even watch, I just couldn't stomach the killing of Delia, I only know what I've read about the episode.
Really? the episode had Delia going through the ages? WTF! Than why kill her off when she the character could be a great character to write for down the road...Abbott/Foster combination of families not another Abbott\Newman.
Another Abbott bites the dust again... @ a expense of a Newman...
So yes I voted for YR this past week... Before someone jumps on my ass for voting for YR and not seeing none of last week, I certainly know enough about YR after 40 years knowing it was GOD AWFUL!
CBS soaps are not getting any love on this site ironical that they are the only ones with best ratings lol!
^Probably because CBS's audience tends to be on the older side.
Or that majority of DC members are GH/ABC soap viewers
^If you look at Y&R viewers, they have way more total viewers, but when it comes to the holy demographics, there isn't a huge difference with the other shows. Y&R's audience is really aging.
Yeah, what can you say about Y&R at this point? Granted, I was hardly attached to the Delia character--she's been on more in the last 2-3 weeks than she has in the last 2 years combined, for obvious reasons of course--so losing her didn't mean much to me personally. Now the manner in which it was done is a whole other story. I don't watch GH, but didn't JFP JUST do this with Tony Geary's character before she got the boot over there? Like, a year-and-a-half, two years ago max? I'll echo what many on these boards have been screaming for awhile now--is there really only FOUR people who can executive produce a daytime soap these days? To think that the only way to generate drama on a soap is to mow down a child is mindboggling, not to mention fucking lazy storytelling at it's absolute worst. I should've learned long ago when she killed off Maureen Bauer that not only does she lack a pulse, but an actual heart.
That said, as frustrated as Y&R has been in the last 2 weeks I have to give it to Sharon Case this week when she completely broke upon learning Nick wasn't feeling at all the same way she was about a reconciliation. Mind you, Sharon Newman is completely ruined as character as far as I'm concerned(Shictor and the Newman takeover were bad enough but just when you think bipolar disorder can explain it all away she uncharacteristically switches those DNA results and that pretty much did it for me)and I can honestly say I have very little use for her. But Sharon Case just DESTROYED this week as Sharon suffered yet another break thanks to a fresh reality check from Nick. And while I know Ghost Cassie annoys the shit out of a lot of viewers, I'm loving Camryn Grimes(Cassie) setting Fruit Loops Sharon straight--"Mom, do you need a pill? You're flipping out"(I won't lie, I got a big chuckle from that one). You gotta give it to Case, she's been given more shitty storylines over the last 3-4 years than just about any other front burner character on this show--and they've ALL had their fair share--but one way or another she manages to push through the pain of it all and come out reminding us that some actors really can turn "shit into sugar"(via the great Jamey Giddons, of course).
I agree ChrisGa....I think Sharon Case is an excellent actress. She's subtle and understated....and effective. I think it would be easy to come off as a ranting, delusional caricature while talking to your dead daughter's ghost, but Case nails those scenes.
Even though I'm more invested in Y&R than DAYS, Worst Soap of the Week has to go to Y&R. Between the Dylan reveal and killing off my poor Dee Dee at the hands of Adam, I just couldn't deal.
Y&R killed off a legacy character this week. I think people can hardly expect to get any love for that. When you start killing of children who are tied to major families on the show, you gotta know you are in trouble.
This site has many Y&R fans. As you can see in the comments. They just don't like what they currently see. I'd believe that's the problem.
And well ... the best thing about Y&R this last week was Sharon Case's acting in this stupid Sharon storyline.
Back to the killing of Delia Abbott. Two years after killing off Jake Spencer on GH, knowing the reaction of fans, JFP does the same thing on Y&R? I mean it's basically even the same story. Jake was killed and became a donor for Josslyn while Delia is killed and ends up becoming a donor for Connor!?
Looking at the official Facebook page, Twitter or the message boards I never saw so many fans upset and angry with a story on Y&R. Longtime viewers - some watching for decades - come out to express that they'll probably stop watching. If that isn't concerning anyone at Sony or CBS, the show is doomed.
I can't wait though to read someone from CBS/Sony say that "the story had such a huge reaction and fans suffered with Billy, Chloe and the other characters through that loss". Ratings might be good, they might even get a little higher in the upcoming weeks ... but in the end it's going to hurt the show. We already saw that happening on GH and it was saved from cancellation at the very last minute.
Good luck Y&R. You need it!
Damn u JFP!!!
So I'm just curious...
Anyone think that Phelps is worse than Latham or MAB?
You can count me on that list, pferrando.
pferrando; All three were damaging in their own ways. My problem with current EP Phelps is that she has not learned lick about what plaqued her past shows. On a professional sense she is the very definition of insane. Someone who does the same thing over and over expecting different results. Its clear JFP is bankrupt of ideas and that alone should be enough to get rid of her. She brings nothing new to the table.
As for the story in question, it simply reeks of a creative team bankrupt of ideas. Michael Muhney gave and interview to Michael Fairman saying this is Josh G's swan song. Not buying. With less than a week left of his work Jill would have nixed this idea if she wasn't behind it. Much like Frank and Ron nixed killing Robin on GH. A character death that would have happened had Jill stayed in charge there. I think this story arc is 100% JFP's creative interference in the writing process.
Personally Adams reaction to baby Connor going blind is over the top. He was raised by Hope. A strong woman who never saw her blindness as a handicap. Hope was wholesome and fiercely independent. Never a victim of her condition. At one point Victor even inquired with a doc who thought he could perform surgery on Hope that may give her sight. She declined. So far the writing for this story is painting Adam as a frantic parent who has no background in dealing with this. They even penned a scene last week where Adam claimed his mothers blindness made for a hard life for her. Not true in the least. Victor meeting Hope and being humbled by her spirit was one of the most beautiful love stories Bill Bell told on the show. Hopes strength and fierce independence turned her into an instant fan favorite. I wish the Y&R regime would learn the history of these characters and stop with the lazy bullshit writing.
I'm on pure "fuck you" where this show is concerned right now. Completely manipulative and not derived from truth or heart.
RESTLESSFAN - Its pure twisted thinking and I think alot of personality has to go into that. Right...insane, doing it yet a again. Jerk. I love a few of the characters on that show, but I wouldnt turn it on with a ten foot pole. Its already off my DVR. There is nothing for me to see there.
All three of them killed Abbotts.
I think the death of John Abbott hurt the show in a great way that you still feel today. The Colleen storyline was just cruel with Victor hurting the Abbotts every chance he gets and then he gets Colleen's heart and still behaves like a major douche. And now little Delia.
When it comes to the Abbotts, all three damaged the show in a major way by killing off veteran or legacy characters.
But I think that pretty much everything else that Latham did hadn't a major impact on the show. It showed when Maria Arena Bell undid much of stories that could have changed the show. I also believe in retrospective that people were so hard on Latham because we all were spoiled by Bill Bell's writing and that of his successor Kay Alden.
Arena Bell lost her way the minute she had control over everything. That's when the show really started to suck. Head writer and EP is not something everyone can handle. She's living proof looking at how bad she was on handling the show's budget, the storylines and her charities. It was just too much. And it showed.
Phelps maybe is the worst because she showed in 12 months what she's capable of. How fast you can change the show's look and it's natural feel. Y&R always was a show of organic storylines. Under Phelps the writers write much more after plot. There is no balance in the cast anymore. Y&R doesn't feel like and ensemble show anymore. Phelps has her favorites like no one ever had before on Y&R. And it also shows. Then the show loses Katherine Chancellor, Phyllis Summers and a legacy character within a few months. Of course not all of it is Phelps' fault, but if you lose two veteran characters, the next step isn't to kill off a legacy character.
It's bad judgement. It's one of those things that in the long run KILLS a show. Look at GH. It was almost killed by what Phelps has done to this show. Killing Quartermaine after Quartermaine ... and letting the show revolve around four characters. Well the same is now happening to Y&R.
The same similar storyline was told on DAYS a number of years ago when Bo & Hope's young son Zack was run over by Bo's daughter Chelsea. By run over that's exactly what I mean. If memory serves one of Zack's organs was donated to Shawn & Belle's daughter Claire to save her life. So this is not a brand new shocking storyline it's been done before.
MAB wrote some pretty sick schit. This woman is a mess from the word go, all she knows is death and rape.
She knows ZERO about the characters, and she couldn't care less as long as her pet Stevie B is numero uno.
Steve Kent and Angelica McDaniel are delusional at this point.
If you go to other sites people, people that have never posted before are complaining about them killing off DD, and talking about not watching.
This was the grand daughter of Jill Foster Abbott and John Abbott, Esther Valentine. What potential has been sacrificed on the altar of JFP'S MADDNESS.
This IS the reason JG left, he knew viewers wouldn't accept it(he created the character of DD) and told the old crone as much but she wasn't having any of it. She rules with an iron scepter play by her rules or be gone peasant.
Congratulations CBS and Sony, how do you hire a woman with such a track record of failure is beyond me.
Restless, I so agree with your assessment of YR. It's another epic fail and the sad part we don't even see JFP being fired in the next few months...sigh my heart weeps because of the destruction that is taking place on YR. (
P~ that's a tough question to answer who was worse...gosh I think LML (John) was her most serious but she wasn't as dark-minded when she was EP or writer as MAB & JFP, in her storytelling as those two EPs. MAB killed Colleen, Brad, Diane, and Cane. JFP has just started with Delia, I feel it will be coming 1 or 2 longtime major vets will die on JFP's watch. It's a wait and see because evidently CBS or Sony has no plans to remove JFP...then what will happen to poor YR after the damage has been done, so much like what happen to ATWT & GL...nervous Mabel here...
Thanks for the discussion...and to some extent I agree with everyone.
I still hate Latham's writing the most.
But I think her and Phelps are the worst EPs the show has had.
I was behind Maria, but only about half the time.
I know we all keep banging our heads.
I just fear it's going to get even worse.