HomeTVThe Young and The RestlessWas Delia Abbott’s Death Worth It on The Young and the Restless? (POLL) Jamey Giddens October 30, 2013 26 Comments Little Cordelia Abbott (Sophie Pollono) is now in Soap Heaven with her bitchy ghost Paw Paw John (Jerry Douglas), her big cousin Colleen and the rest of Genoa City's not-quite walking dead on The Young and the Restless. While many fans were initially incensed at the thought of yet another Abbott being killed off this soap — especially under the stewardship of Jill Farren Phelps (Sorry, but the lady does sort of have a rep for gutting popular characters on sudsers!), there's no denying the death of Billy (Billy Miller) and Chloe's (Elizabeth Hendrickson) little girl has provided The Young and the Restless with its most powerful umbrella storyline in years. Miller, Hendrickson and Greg Rikaart (Kevin) have been turning in Emmy-worthy performances as Billy, Chloe and Kevin's grief over their daughter threatens to consume them. Michael Muhney, whose Adam Newman accidentally caused the death of the young girl whose corneas ultimately saved his son's eyesight, has also more than risen to the occasion, as has Melissa Claire Egan (Chelsea). Even Amelia Heinle, who rarely receives kudos online for her very non-Heather Tom version of Victoria Newman, has proven a stunning supporting player in this arc. The tragedy has also served to shore up the central families of Genoa City — something Y&R has desperately needed to do. Jill (Jess Walton), Ashley (Eileen Davidson) and Traci (Beth Maitland) Abbott all returned to be there for Billy. Jack (Peter Bergman) finally showed himself worth to carry the mantle as the new patriarch and even newbies like Kyle (Hartley Sawyer), Abby (Melissa Ordway) and Summer (Hunter King) didn't seem so islanded and out of place for a change. I can't be the only one who choked up when the Abbotts had one of their traditional family breakfasts, in a well-meant attempt to cheer Billy up. The only thing missing was Mamie (Veronica Redd) and her sticky buns! The Newman and Chancellor households were also places of strength and solidarity, as practically everyone in Genoa City came together to mourn this child who was beloved by so many. I guess my big question is, after all was said and done, was it worth it? Was it smart for The Young and the Restless to kill off Delia? Was Delia Abbott's Death Worth It on The Young and the Restless? (POLL) No. Delia was core to Y&R and should have been there for future storylines. (78%, 3,043 Votes) Yes. Death is tragic, but it's a part of life and leads to powerful storylines on soaps. (22%, 875 Votes) Total Voters: 3,918Vote Loading ... 26 Responses noway October 30, 2013 Did anyone else get the vibe that Chloe will be the next cray cray when she went to see Connor? Log in to Reply yojoromo4469 October 30, 2013 I am very sad to see the story go this way. If they had to kill off someone from the show, why not DYLDUMB. Delia was a much better actor than Steve Burton, who in his 40+ years hasn’t done anything as good. Would have much rather seen him gone, than Delia. Log in to Reply bobbyew October 30, 2013 The Abbott breakfast was great. Haven’t seen that dining room or the Chancellor dining room set in a year. The scenes were just to short with Billy and his sisters. Eileen Davidson looking fabulous was poorly used and written. I still feel even though I know she is working in Michigan Gloria should have been mentioned or been there. Log in to Reply Duchess October 30, 2013 To me this has been the best Y&R has been in a long time! I haven’t been glued to the tv every day like this in years. Yes it’s a sad story but it’s brought out the best in the actors, writers, and everyone else. Seeing all the amazing family scenes yesterday especially made me remember why it is that I love soaps. Victor being nice to Billy and Jack, Esther/Jill and Nikki/Jill, Reed with Billy and Chloe, Villy, Ashley/Abby and Ashley/Jackie, ghost John, Traci/Billy and Traci/Chloe, even Billy/Dash had me crying. Kudos to everyone involved! Log in to Reply RebeccaJ October 30, 2013 It’s hard to say a child is “core to the show” when they’re only on sporadically. Granted, Delia has been on more lately, I’m sure because of this story and she was on when she was sick, but once she got better, she wasn’t onscreen for a long time that I can recall. I definitely feel Cassie was core to the show, but not Delia. And yeah, Billy and Dash had me crying too. Log in to Reply roooo October 30, 2013 Hmm…say what you will about Steve Burton, I understand that a lot of people don’t like his character or believe he infiltrated the show’s tapestry. But he is a great actor. Much better than others on the show (that dude who plays Mason? yike!) As for the Delia storyline, it should not have happened. The performances have been AWESOME, but we’ve never needed to be concerned about Muhney, Miller, Hendrickson, et al. What the storyline has accomplished though is not as fun: 1) The show is a total downer. I watch every day after work and it’s beyond sad. Child death is not entertainment for me. Especially on the heels of Katherine’s death. We need some excitement on the show – big twists, surprises, intrigue…. 2) Billy Miller is a true gift to daytime. He’s brilliant. One of the characteristics I liked most about his portrayal of Billy Abbott was the combination of his vulnerability and his terrific ability to bring humor and levity into his work. This story has killed Billy’s spirit along with his child. Is there any hope of having fun Billy back? 3) Longterm story potential with Delia’s character is destroyed. The possibilities were endless and there just aren’t that many kids on the show at the moment. There always need to be core-family kids on the horizon for SORASing. Delia could have been amazing. That’s what I’ve got so far. Suffice to say, if I were writing this show, this story would NOT have happened. We have a show rich in character, history and a cast unmatched in any medium – let’s please give the show some real fun. Log in to Reply The_Moustache October 30, 2013 I have mixed feelings about this. Why couldn’t they kill off a Newman for a change, it’s always the Abbott’s dying to save the life of a Newman. On the acting side, this would not have had the same impact if it were a random character. Elizabeth Hendrickson and Billy Miller are giving great performances as the grieving parents. Michael Muhney has also been wonderful portraying the guilt Adam has knowing he killed the little girl that saved his son’s life. I don’t know how this will impact the overall canvas in years to come. Log in to Reply SoapArmageddon October 30, 2013 I wouldn’t mind if Billy and Chloe had grief sex and she wound up getting pregnant again. Log in to Reply goyankees October 30, 2013 I really can’t watch this as I stated a few weeks back… BUT I NEED THE SPOILERS FOR WHEN BILLY AND CHLOE HAVE THEIR GRIEF SEX!! I’m estimating around Thanksgiving; but prior to Christmas. Seriously, Chloe, get on that, girl. Log in to Reply bobbyew October 30, 2013 Winters YAWN Wednesday! Can we please get rid of Hilary now that she has completed the ninth step. Lets move on give that contract to someone else. Or is she gonna be Devons new love interest. It may be interesting to see. Michael does not need to be in jail and let Lauren take the fall. They would not be in this mess had she not dropped her drawers for Carmine the hottie Bascoe. Although it made for good TV when she did. Log in to Reply sodsince16 October 30, 2013 When BJ died on GH it was interesting to see not only the immediate effects but also how plots changed over time. Tony became darker and was more vulnerable to an affair with Carly after the death of BJ, which lead to Michael being conceived with AJ, and has paid off with years of story for GH. On Y&R, we saw Nick and Sharon cope with the after effects of Cassie’s death. It lead to Nick’s affair with Phyllis, the conception of Summer, the Sharon-Nick-Phyllis triangle, and Sharon’s kleptomania. However, when Liz’s kid Cameron was killed on GH, there were no identifiable effects on the character of Liz. There has been no linkage between Cam’s death and Liz’s relationship with AJ. We have no idea if Liz is especially troubled by the situation with Maxie’s baby. In fact, there has not been any mention of Cameron in the last nine months. I would say the same thing for Hope Brady and Nicole Walker’s dead babies on Days, Storm’s death on B&B, and Colleen Carlton’s demise on Y&R. These deaths were tragic but quickly forgotten. Thus, if the baby’s death leads to long term story consequences then I am in favor of killing babies. However, if Chloe is just going to forget that she ever had a baby in a year then it seems like a waste of a potential storyline. Finally, Chloe could have been central to so many plots as the quasi-surrogate daughter of Kay Chancellor. But, Jill became the quasi-daughter, Chelsea is the scheming vixen from the wrong side of the tracks and Abby or Summer are the young ingenues. All of which begs the question – What is Chloe’s particular function in long term stories for Y&R? I don’t see long term options for this character. Log in to Reply pferrando October 30, 2013 It was hard to vote because this character in her current status on the show was as core as Murphy. She really was seldom seen. Further down the road though, like most children of legacy characters, she could have been used, so that question would have made more sense if it was a contract role. Yes, it got good ratings. Yes, the performances stirred many emotions in us all and created some fantastic scenes with real CORE characters, especially with the Abbotts and returns by Traci and Ashley. It made us forget Dylan, for the most part, and returned the show’s focus back to the characters we love to see every day. But the most important thing I think it did was just further damage Phelps’ soap cred and make most long time viewers miss the real YR that much more. More than ever Phelps needs to go to protect the show in the future. Log in to Reply tmac October 30, 2013 sodsince 16…Cameron isn’t the dead child on GH, it was Jake. Cameron is still very much alive. And The Moustache, Connor wasn’t dying on Y&R, he was going to lose his eyesight. So Delia didn’t save his life, just his vision. Log in to Reply Yoryla October 30, 2013 HECK NO! This child’s death was inexcusable!! Log in to Reply liason4real October 30, 2013 GH killed off Liz’s second son Jake in order to make it okay for Jason to have another kid with Sam. There was no logical reason for killing off Jake. N.O.N.E! Cam is a cute kid as played by the previous actor, but there would have been more story to tell with Jason’s son Jake versus Lucky’s son Aiden. All future story with Liz as the boy’s mother would have put her between her first love (Lucky) and soulmate (Jason). Log in to Reply ChrisGa October 31, 2013 There has been some stellar acting, particularly from Hendrickson, Rikaart, Egan, Muhney and even Heinle(I’ve never been as enamored with Billy Miller’s acting as everyone else seems to be and this story really hasn’t changed that). My only real gripe–besides the actual act of running down a child in the middle of the night–is all the contrived instances/conversations that have occurred in regards to Delia and how close she was to people on this canvas. I mean, did she actually share scenes with anyone besides her parents, step-parents and her two grandmothers? To hear the writing tell it, she was tight with Abby, Nikki, Victor and Devon, not to mention newly demon-seeded Faith(that whole scene at the park with Faith and Sharon and Faith saying she and Delia loved to swing on the swings seemed completely artificial and lazy). I don’t know, the whole thing just seems like a big retcon for the sake of wringing some tears out of the audience. Was nice to see the Abbotts all huddled around though, even if half of them with newbies/recasts(Eileen looked beautiful as ever and she will always be Ashley to me but damn if the character doesn’t fall flat next to Eileen’s Kristen Dimera over at DAYS). Log in to Reply Debra Disney October 31, 2013 Delia Was the Sweetest child on Y&R. After losing Jeanne Cooper, aka Mrs. Chancellor earlier this year because she did pass away, I grieved hard for the actress and her character. She was priceless and will be forever missed. Killing off Delia (and I could see the donation of her corneas for baby Connor coming from a mile Away. . . Who Couldn’t? !! ) was Senseless and NEEDLESS. I don’t need any more tears on Y&R, a major Character was lost just a few months back, and it was heartbreaking for fans and her co-workers alike. MAJOR thumbs-down to writers/producers who thought THIS storyline was a wise move, it was NOT. I expect Better @ Y&R, I’ve been watching for 20+ years and am quite a Fan! As an aside, the first “grown-up” actor who portrayed Kyle was FAR SUPERIOR to this Kyle Abbott. Switch him back, please — this guy doesn’t fit in with the Family. new Summer and new Abby are doing just fine! Thank you. Log in to Reply pjc722 October 31, 2013 A TRULY THROW IT AWAY episode today with the continuing saga of the Baldwins and the Winters. Here is my gripe with the shows and budgets… Don’t have story that talks about BIG WEDDINGS if all the attendants are day players AND DON’T kill off legacy characters or children if the story is just a story and nothing more! Delia died and Lily couldn’t go to the funeral because her twins were sick yesterday but now they are trick or treating today?! Lily and Cane had their baby sitter watching their kids DURING THE HURRICANE of the century so they could go to a hotel for sex so not having Lily there was ridiculous. NOT having Gloria there (whether the actress was working or not… TAPE HER SCENES IN ADVANCE!!!… not having Lauren there… CHLOE IS FAMILY AS IS DELIA so show some damn Loyalty ESPECIALLY since its your sister’s granddaughter!!… We’re given a scene with “I don’t own a comb or brush” Victoria with DULLyn to be there for Billy BUT he doesn’t show up to the funeral for the kid he said “I just had a tea party with her yesterday?!” Chelsea couldn’t leave the side of her baby boy for 30 minutes yet Adam can keep sulking and disappearing? Or she couldn’t say to the hospital that she will be there in an hour because her best friend’s child is being buried?!! All these slip ups and oversights are noticed. And the rationale for killing Delia is ridiculous ESPECIALLY since the last child to be killed CASSIE keeps showing up to her CRAZY MOTHER!!! Log in to Reply sodsince16 October 31, 2013 Thanks tmac, I confuse the entire Webber clan all the time. Back in the day, I could never remember if Rick or Jeff was Monica’s true love. Log in to Reply RCandFV4life October 31, 2013 While I know that this site and most people in the comments have been hating on Y&R for pretty much the last 5 years (for the most part, deservedly so), I commend Jamey for giving credit where it is due. While I thought Jake’s death on GH felt completely contrived and was a poor imitation of the terrific BJ’s Heart S/L, so far Delia’s death has had a great impact on the entire cast. Specifically, it has brought the CORE families to the forefront and is a great umbrella story. I even thought that Delia’s death episode was done well and was not gratuitous as I had expected to be. Showing Delia’s possible life at different stages was at least more of an unique way than simply seeing a car swerve, Billy yell and then cut to the hospital with Delia being pronounced dead. I still think Y&R has a lot to improve on (for the love of God, make Steve Burton be shirtless in every scene w/o speaking or dump his overpaid ass), but I think that in the short term, this story has worked. Only time will tell if it has any lasting impact. Log in to Reply scrumptious October 31, 2013 The problem with this Delia story is that it was a blatant rip-off of Jake’s story from GH. It was paint-by-numbers copycat writing. Kill off a kid nobody ever saw for ratings & Emmy reels. Delia was invisible until a month before she died, so why should we care? She wasn’t a core character like Cassie or Colleen who interacted with people. If Delia was “beloved”, it must’ve happened off screen because I don’t remember seeing this kid hanging with any of the Abbotts when she was alive. The acting was okay but nothing special. We’ve seen these exact same scenes before with GH’s Jonathan Jackson, Tony Geary, Becky Herbst, Steve Burton, Laura Wright, and quite frankly, they did it better. Jonathan Jackson can out-cry Billy Miller any day of the week, and nobody plays self-loathing better than Tony Geary. This story also lacked the emotional punch of Cassie’s death. Cassie’s funeral was a gut-wrenching spectacle. Delia’s funeral was never shown. That stupid tea party was embarrassing. This is an interesting story for Adam (Michael Muhney) from a psychological standpoint, but otherwise, it’s become pretty tedious and mundane. Now that everyone has their Emmy reels, I’m ready for them to wrap it up already and move on. Log in to Reply harlee490 October 31, 2013 It’s just a thoughtless, lazy rehash of stories JFP has done before on other soaps. It wasn’t creative or inspired story. What makes me boil underneath more than anything on how this tragic story seems so more important (for ratings, Emmy reels) then the death of 40 year vet of Katherine Chancellor! WTF! |( We had a measly two day tribute and that wasn’t spectacular but decent given it was for the Jeanne Cooper. All in charge moved quickly on, has anyone noticed? Sadly Katherine’s death was a HUGE missed opportunity to “relaunch” so to speak the YR. I’m tried of reading on all the soap sights to quote “it happens in real life” or “it’s just a soap opera and not real” or “calm down it will be good”. Now, I don’t know anything but this sounds like sometimes it’s CBS’s plants on sites to try to get people behind this horrible decision by executives. Only huge bright spot was Abbotts reuniting at the breakfast table. Speaking of which, isn’t it a shame how most of longtime viewers get giddy over the simplest scene regarding this soap family….it’s because we don’t see this “tradition” on YR now days. What other EP’s now think is throw away or silly scenes was Bill’s bread & butter and used this type of scene all the time! Including Mamie. :love: This is why it rings true to us :bigsmile: Log in to Reply Dyllan October 31, 2013 [quote]This is an interesting story for Adam (Michael Muhney) from a psychological standpoint[/quote] And that is the most BORING part of the story. Watching Muhney sniffle outside of Delia’s funeral was pointless. Log in to Reply RebeccaJ October 31, 2013 [quote=ChrisGa] My only real gripe–besides the actual act of running down a child in the middle of the night–is all the contrived instances/conversations that have occurred in regards to Delia and how close she was to people on this canvas. I mean, did she actually share scenes with anyone besides her parents, step-parents and her two grandmothers? To hear the writing tell it, she was tight with Abby, Nikki, Victor and Devon, not to mention newly demon-seeded Faith(that whole scene at the park with Faith and Sharon and Faith saying she and Delia loved to swing on the swings seemed completely artificial and lazy). I don’t know, the whole thing just seems like a big retcon for the sake of wringing some tears out of the audience. Was nice to see the Abbotts all huddled around though, even if half of them with newbies/recasts(Eileen looked beautiful as ever and she will always be Ashley to me but damn if the character doesn’t fall flat next to Eileen’s Kristen Dimera over at DAYS).[/quote] I totally agree. When I was watching the show and Abby started going on and on about how Delia loved to ride the swings, I had to laugh. I’ve never seen her with that child. The more I heard, the more I thought, “way to fake up memories of stuff that NEVER happened!” I don’t ever recall seeing her with Faith. And FWIW, I am NOT liking this nuFaith at all. As far as the sex between billy and chloe I hope it never happens. Wouldn’t that just be the rewrite of sharon and nick’s story? A child dies, a partner cheats. Log in to Reply yojoromo4469 October 31, 2013 [quote=sodsince16]Thanks tmac, I confuse the entire Webber clan all the time. Back in the day, I could never remember if Rick or Jeff was Monica’s true love.[/quote] THIS MOST BE FOR SOME OTHER SHOW. I THOUGHT THIS WAS Y AND R INFO? Log in to Reply pferrando October 31, 2013 I didn’t see this story before on GH, so I really don’t care that it’s a rehash of some bad plotted story there. I wouldn’t have known, and it wouldn’t have made a difference. I do care that Phelps only way of trying to keep her ratings up was to kill a character that could have been used years from now. We don’t want a constant parade of new characters from new writers even if they have the last name of core families. If these writers knew how to develop a story, and use history, they have all the material in front of their faces. Look at the families currently on the canvas. Quit being lazy Passanante, Altman, and Thompson. 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