General Hospital’s Ron Carlivati Answers Your “Burning Questions”!





In one of the most in depth interviews I've read featuring one of soap opera's Powers That Be, TV Guide Magazine's Michael Logan asked General Hospital head writer Ron Carlivati every question he and fans were dying to get answers about. From the Genie Francis factor, to the scribe's spirited debates with fans (and/or the occasional Greek yogurt pitchman!) on Twitter, everything was covered, twice! Check out a few excerpts below.

TV Guide Magazine: You've ushered in a new way of soap writing by only using actors when you really need them, and that makes for a much better show. But then the fans of anybody you temporarily set aside get boiling mad. Is it a no-win situation?

Carlivati: It's really a constraint when you have a big contract cast and they all have their guarantees that need to be met. You end up putting people on screen just because they're getting paid, not because they have something important to do. And the result is audience boredom. Not only does this new way work better with our tighter budget, it makes for a better show when you have the freedom to rest a character.

TV Guide Magazine: Unless you're a Genie Francis fan. They're having cows because she disappeared from the show. Ditto with Sean Kanan's following. The Rebecca Herbst fans are steamed because she hasn't had a storyline in ages.

Carlivati: What's the point of seeing your favorites if they're not doing something crucial and interesting? Why not let someone else have the spotlight? Now we have a bunch of folks who are not on contract and they can pop in and out when we need them. It has allowed us to broaden our canvas of characters and pull from so many different eras of the show. But, yeah, it is no-win. People will complain because Anna doesn't have much to do. I'll say, 'Hang on, she's got a big story coming." But, then it's never like "Great! Thanks!" It's, "Well, then, what about Liz?" [Laughs] You can't win!

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    appleridge

    “What’s the point of seeing your favorites if they’re not doing something crucial and interesting?”

    Ron I like you & believe you are a champion for daytime but your the Head writer man,. That is your job. Actually and this is only my opinion but not seeing characters for weeks at a time just takes the umph out of it for me.

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    thecourt99

    Why not let someone else have the spotlight?

    I have been waiting on Liz to get the spotlight for years. I haven’t even seen her in a love scene (without going to YouTube of course). Still waiting….

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    really

    What I got out of this was Liz is not getting a story (I am fine with this) and RC doesn’t care about Liz. I also think that if Liz fans care about her at all they will STOP tweeting him about where she is. RC has proven to be vindictive and so I can see this annoying him and Liz being pushed further to the back burner as a “so there.”

    I also have decided that RC is either a massive LIAR, or brain dead and actually unable to come up with a logical story. If he is not lying about GF’s availability the why did he write her and Scotty as engaged? Why not just have Laura come back because Lulu was kidnapped? Why not have her be there FOR LULU and then start feeling funny so she has to go back to the doctor. Why trash L&L beyond repair and Scotty and Laura. Why make Laura weak and pathetic?

    I mean he did this EVERY vet return of the 50th. He trashed the history and the characters instead of doing the obvious easy story for characters that were STRAIGHT UP VISITING. So there was no need for them to truly push story, heck none did. I know that he only really cared about getting the OLTL 3 back but that GF comment and the 50th vet return proved that he wasn’t focused on the show and is either a liar or doesn’t know how to plan a story logically.

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    nysam

    A lot of questions come up after reading this interview…

    He skirted the issue of why there was no Liz. He obviously isn’t a fan of her’s. As for Sean Kanan, don’t the writers or the writing assistants keep track of guarantees? There is no way that Sean went over his guarantee that justifies him not being on screen for over 2 months. Something fishy.

    As for Genie. He says she signed a short term contract. Fine. Why didn’t he write a good story that could be told in the limited time she returned instead of the crap she was handed?

    He admits they have a big canvas of players. Why not get rid of some of them?

    What about Franco not being tied to anyone on the canvas since Susan, Alan and Jason were dead? Ummmmm. Susan has been dead 25 years. Alan has been dead 6 years. Jason died last Fall. Cartoony knew all these characters were dead when they decided to cast Howarth as Franco. Franco connected to his brother, AJ and his Aunt Tracy isn’t enough? He is now tied to recurring Scotty and Heather?

    If Ron had to derail the AJ story and Connie story because they got Kimberly back then it sounds like she is back for a limited time. Obviously they had to work around her schedule to tell the story in a certain amount of time. It also suggests that the AJ and Connie story wasn’t that strong that it could easily be tossed to the side.

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    soapjunkie88

    First I have to say that I thank Ron Carlivati for doing this interview. Look at the other head writers of Daytime. Not many of them do interviews. And if they do it’s at the beginning of their tenure to promise us things they can’t keep.

    Yeah the cast feels a bit bloated. But if the start cutting people, fans won’t like it because it won’t regular or new characters. Instead we wouldn’t see people like Lucy, Scotty, Heather and Robert anymore. These are the ones that would get cut. So if they can find a better balance like the UK soaps do, which are all half-hour formats and have a very long cast list, I’m okay with it.

    What about Elizabeth Webber? Yeah what about her? It seems like this regime just doesn’t know what to do with her. They don’t know what story to tell with her character. I don’t know why. Is it because RC doesn’t get the character or what is the problem here?
    Since RC took over, he tried some things. He tried Liz with Ewen, then she wanted to get back with Jason, then we had AJ and a little bit of Nikolas again but nothing seems to stick. And outside her love life a story for Elizabeth doesn’t seem to exist anyway. It’s sad.

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    Daniel St. John

    So AJ being on trial for killing Sonny’s lover isn’t “something to do”?
    I call B.S. On this nonsense because some characters never disappear for long stretches of time and what they have as a storyline is nowhere near as compelling as I would assume a murder mystery/murder trial would be.

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    Cyberologist

    The only question I want answered is why he won’t write for Elizabeth Webber? Why he can write for Carlos, Britt, Sabrina newbies from nowhere but when it comes to a 17 year vet with mucho history yet he can’t find “her” a storyline and excludes her in key story (that she should be in).

    Hey Ron, Liz is the only artist in Port Charles (hint, hint)
    Hey Ron, Liz is Robin’s best friend (hint hint)
    There are fan fiction writers who write a ton of story for Liz and they aren’t even a highly paid writer on a team of highly paid writers.

    Elizabeth Webber should be in the ranks with Carly, Sam, and yes, even the great Maura Wests’ Ava re: story yet he continues to keep her on propping duty worshipping and adoring Sabrina then looking like a dunce (when she received a phone call from a supposedly dead Lucky) he writes her not to believe Robin could be calling without even mentioning this Elizabethean history? Why write women to look like idiots Ron.

    In this day and age with the decline of soap opera why can’t a single woman with children drive her own storyline instead of “just” chasing cajones, why women can’t have a storyline without AJ, or Lucky or Silas…there is a saying about GH women “no dick, no story”

    Just regulating her to costar as a Sabrina cheerleader? Why Ron? Cuz we’ve come a long way baby.

    Its more than clear to this Elizabeth Webber fan since day 1 he doesn’t care about this actress and/or character and continues to disrespect her and her fans. I was so happy when he said “she was mismanaged” Yesss..

    finally! but I guess that was just all talk cuz not only is he not managing her he won’t even pick up his pen for her.

    There has been an ongoing pattern at GH re: vets not only propping newbies instead of the other way around…with one excuse after another on reasons why he won’t do this or that…but its clear how vets were/are used on this show. Basically a new show has been created on the bones of GH yes I’m bitter (not vindictive because I want GH to be a hit even though I have serious issues with the storytelling)

    When Carlintini came on I was jumping up and down screaming through out my house with glee but they’re just like Frons and Guza just better looking

    Frankly I’m out tired of excuses excuses when all I see is a bloated cast and only the “chosen” get writing/storylines in stories they need not be in.

    As for tweeting the powers, years of previous experience has taught me well, I already know after decades this show doesn’t give a shit about their soap fans wants or desires so I don’t see what’s wrong with asking about if your favs are getting a storyline he’s going to be vindicative anyway if that’s how he rolls so you may as well ask a question.

    As for this,

    What’s the point of seeing your favorites if they’re not doing something crucial and interesting? Why not let someone else have the spotlight? Now we have a bunch of folks who are not on contract and they can pop in and out when we need them. It has allowed us to broaden our canvas of characters and pull from so many different eras of the show. But, yeah, it is no-win. People will complain because Anna doesn’t have much to do. I’ll say, ‘Hang on, she’s got a big story coming.” But, then it’s never like “Great! Thanks!” It’s, “Well, then, what about Liz?” [Laughs] You can’t win!

    Huh?

    I can barely respond repectfully because I’m way too stunned this was even said was this said to throw me off the question that was asked?

    Because I respect him as writer but anyone who watches this show could tear this response to shreds with little or no effort. I write (yes for a living) and when I want my characters exciting, interesting, boring or whatever “I write them to be.”

    These are not real people trapped in fiction.

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    nysam

    @Ryan-Scott….great quote.

    Claire Labine was capable of plotting 120 movies a year. She probably could have scripted 200 a year and still been true to character and told an emotional dramatic story. Carlivati is limited and is only able to focus on a handful of characters and mostly characters that the audience doesn’t care about.

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    SwanQueen59

    [quote=nysam]@Ryan-Scott….great quote.

    Claire Labine was capable of plotting 120 movies a year. She probably could have scripted 200 a year and still been true to character and told an emotional dramatic story. Carlivati is limited and is only able to focus on a handful of characters and mostly characters that the audience doesn’t care about.[/quote]

    nysam-How true about Claire Labine and yes the current headwriter is limited. But he’s very adept in the art of “spin”…. 0:)

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    Ryan-Scott

    Headwriting a soap I think has to be one of the hardest jobs in tv (Of course pay me 1 million a year and a co headwriter to work with and I’d be willing to have no life and try doing: Written By – Ryan Scott ;) )
    As Leslie Charleson put it at the Soap Opera Digest Awards in 1995 or 1996 when she and Brad Maule were presenting the Editors Award to Claire Labine after they were introduced by the DIVINE Kate Mulgrew:
    “Headwriting a show is like plotting 120 movies a year.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD4snKgFDAY

    I tip my Goo Goo Dolls hat to all that are currently doing it.
    Some are excelling and some are wasting our time and should be removed but I tip my hat nonetheless. In my opinion, Ron is the former.

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    Yoryla

    Firstly, I have to say that GH has these past few months has been excellent. The biggest weak links for me have been 1. Franco 2. Kiki & Michael. Those are it.

    Now, I understand the way he thinks, I don’t know if it’s right though. I think he likes the idea of having a lot of names on the cast list, and possibly also the idea that the show can utilize the talent when the show wants to. And I also agree that some will always complain if they see their favorite character but they are only supporting. So yes, I could definitely people complaining about seeing Liz without her having her own storyline. So in that sense, I understand that he wants to spare the audience of *that* particular annoyance. And also I believe that the scheduling changes affect things and that they had Robin back when they did changed everything. And IMO, that story IS the most important one, the one that gets to overwrite the others.

    However, the choice to overwrite Liz & AJ instead of Franco/Carly and especially the ridiculous Miki storyline, can be questioned upon. They must realize over at GH how well liked Liz is, and how much viewers would be happy to see her in a leading role. IMO, she along with Sam and Carly are the leads of GH. Even when Liz isn’t seen so much I still definitely think of her as someone who should be a lead.

    Not sure what to think about the GF thing. I know for a fact she would love to do as much GH as she could. I’ve actually thought that the most logical reason they’re not doing anything for Laura right now, is that they would be waiting on Stephen Nichols to reprise his role as Stefan. Now, nothing like that was mentioned here, but of course that doesn’t mean anything. He could still show up at any given opportune moment, as a big surprise. And I have just thought that that is the reason we haven’t been seing Laura, because they’re waiting on Stefan.

    Then about the twitter. Now this is something I have to disagree with. I think there’s a reason why head writers and/or executive producers don’t much get on Twitter. IMO they don’t really have to. Ron’s job is to write. He can also use Twitter to promote, as Frank does. But he does not have to nor should he engage with individual fans. That will accomplish nothing. Of course there are going to be people who are going to call him names and such, being in the position that he’s in. But so what, that happens to everyone. I don’t understand why he would take it that way and so personally. And also, the fact that he straight up said that Twitter gets to him. So, okay, say that some Liz fans call him names, does that mean he will get back at those fans for attacking him by not writing for Liz? I should hope not.

    Ron, the show is great, but please, don’t go on Twitter. It’s not gonna help.

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=NathanHastingsSr.]Cut the dead weight such Sabrina, Kiki, Silas, and Franco …[/quote]

    Not gonna happen. You can’t cut young characters like Sabrina and Kiki. ABC wants young characters on the soap. There is a reason why people like Lucy and Scott are only on recurring.

    And if they would be written out, these had to be replaced with other newbies that fit the age.

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    liason4real

    Maybe Ron is hoping JJ comes back for a visit in order to write for Liz/RH which I consider to be an insult. JJ chose to leave the show, and Ron should write for the actors that want to be there and not a maybe “wish” list.

    There was no reason why Liz could not have run the nurses ball, and since the character is also an artist, attend the most recent art gallery opening.

    When an actress is fired with as much uproar that we saw with Rebecca Herbst, it should tell the brass that the person is popular and use them accordingly and not shelve them to the side so that we can see their pets (McBain, Starr and Todd).

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    DevinMissesOLTL

    I don’t care what any of you say, it’s your right to have your opinions. But I think RC is doing an awesome job! I love GH now like I did growing up it he 80’s and 90’s! Yeah there are some things I don’t particularly care for but that goes without saying. Who has ever loved or liked EVERYTHING that happens on the soaps?! But we keep watching right. What I love most about RC is that he IS a fan of his shows and he draws from that. Just about everything he has done since coming to GH has been drawn from the rich history of the show. He is what brought me back to GH after 13 years of not watching. Because of his awesome work on OLTL, I knew he would work wonders here. Great job Ron! I’m on board!

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    soapjunkie88

    [quote=DevinMissesOLTL]I don’t care what any of you say, it’s your right to have your opinions. But I think RC is doing an awesome job![/quote]

    I absolutely agree. For me, Ron Carlivati is the best soap writer we currently have. He has his problems here and there BUT overall, the show is so enjoyable that even when something seems off or wrong it’s minor.
    Now if he finally writes a storyline for Liz, I’m really, really happy. :)

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    robertscorpio

    [quote=DevinMissesOLTL]I don’t care what any of you say, it’s your right to have your opinions. But I think RC is doing an awesome job! I love GH now like I did growing up it he 80’s and 90’s! Yeah there are some things I don’t particularly care for but that goes without saying. Who has ever loved or liked EVERYTHING that happens on the soaps?! But we keep watching right. What I love most about RC is that he IS a fan of his shows and he draws from that. Just about everything he has done since coming to GH has been drawn from the rich history of the show. He is what brought me back to GH after 13 years of not watching. Because of his awesome work on OLTL, I knew he would work wonders here. Great job Ron! I’m on board![/quote]

    Not only has he drawn from GH history, he has also managed draw some history and pay tribute to other ABC soaps. So I do agree with you that he is a fan of his show, but he’s also a fan of soap operas as a whole.

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    appleridge

    Oh p;ease he didnt do tribute to Loving Or Ryans Hope. He made LOVING a Joke. Look it up Ron, Debroah Brewster bought the Alden Mansion in 1995 and a lot folks stayed in Cornith. The fact that is was a ghost town-FAIL

    Ryan’s Hope Where do I start

    1) RC admitted he didnt even contact Claire Labine who co-Created Ryans Hope & was its HW and EP for a long time. Im not ssaying he had to get her approval but a curtosey call would have been nice. Ron she hired u at OLTL in 96. You may not have had your daytime career without her

    2) Delia & Ilene Kristen: Okay ABC why not hire IK to play Ava’s mom but make her a new role. Ava is already tied to Gh history thru her father & brother. There was no need ti tie to her to RH and tie RH to GH.

    3)If Delia had Ava she would have ad her after giving birth to her son, John Reid Ryan (Johnoo) not before. Delia was all about the Ryan’s and Pat & Frank before. That was epic fail to me and it hurt the history and backstory of RH to me

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    Peterascal

    Nice interview. The show has a great balance now. If the previous regime were in charge, you wouldn’t be seeing things like Felicia being by Maxie’s side during the court case.

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    nysam

    Cartoony does mine history….revisionary history. I’m not sure if many of you who worship at the altar of Carlivati ever watched GENERAL HOSPITAL in its golden years of the 80s and 90s or LOVING and RYAN’S HOPE. It isn’t honorable when you take the work of other producers and writers who gave swan songs to their characters and locales and re-write them to fit your vision. Ilene Kristen’s “Delia” was NOT “Delia”. As Appleridge said above the timeline of Ava’s birth based on Delia’s story on RH makes no sense and cheapens the memories of Delia and the Ryans. If Corinth had become a ghost town we would have heard about that on THE CITY. Corinth was the home for Alden University. We are supposed to believe that the college just shut down?

    Cartoony claims to be a fan, but I question that. A true fan would respect the legacy left to him. In the past year on GH and his treatment of Liz (Steve & Audrey’s granddaughter), the destruction of Luke & Laura’s relationship and the unrecognizable Alexis (she is being played as OLTL’s Nora hot for Troy), Scotty & Heather as Franco’s parents, the absence of Q’s after being told the mansion was going to be filled back up makes me wonder if he has a plan to honor what came before or destroy it.

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    Lucy D.

    You can like RC, love him or hate him but really to question whether he’s a soap fan? He obviously loves soaps.

    I am a BIG Liz fan, and I sure think she deserves better than what she’s been handed. But she’s sure being treated better than she was by the previous regime, where she was always wrong, St. Lucky was always right and endless numbers of people essentially called her a whore. The actress was fired by Guza and Phelps. This is worse?

    TV writers/producers take liberties all the time. (Bobby Ewing’s year-long shower?)If it’s entertaining, why does it matter that a fictional college may have closed down?

    And I think ALL the blame for the Luke & Laura relationship goes to Anthony Geary. He didn’t want to work with Genie Francis, and it was painfully obvious. Plus he looked old enough to be her father.

    One of the things I have not seen commented on was his mention of all the negative reaction he got when he first wrote scenes for Liz and Patrick. Maybe that’s why he didn’t go there.

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    seanny

    Ron C.’s excuses about GF don’t jive with what he said when she was rehired. He said something like his before: “We’ve signed her to a long term contract. She’s not going anywhere for the foreseeable future”

    It seems that Rebecca Herbst’s management needs to find a way to up her guarantee because it’s clear that Liz fans are tired of her being marginalized so much.

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    seanny

    Ron C.’s excuses about GF don’t jive with what he said when she was rehired. He said something like his before: “We’ve signed her to a long term contract. She’s not going anywhere for the foreseeable future”

    It seems that Rebecca Herbst’s management needs to find a way to up her guarantee because it’s clear that Liz fans are tired of her being marginalized so much.

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    soapjunkie88

    @nysam: “The City” aired only for one and a half year. If Corinth indeed became a ghost town that it could have very well happen over time with people moving away and students not replying to the Alden University anymore. I doubt that Corinth became a ghost town within months. But I can believe that it happened over a few years.
    I heard some people saying that Ilene Kristen was playing OLTL’s Roxie and not RH’s Delia when she was on for two episodes. And while that very well might be, it’s not only always on the writers. Sometime it’s also the choice of actors to play certain scenes a certain way. I doubt that Ron Carlivati, who is sitting in New York is influencing the acting on GH.

    I have to applaud RC here a bit. He is the only head writer that is very active on Twitter and is interacting with fans. Yeah, he’s very protective of his work. Who wouldn’t!? But he also has to take a lot of crap from fans who are trying to tell him that everything on the show sucks and that he is a bad writer.
    But that is just not true. Without this current regime we might have not even reached the 50th anniversary. They saved the show, brought back people from the shows golden age and also retooled some stories with the history of the show. The ratings are telling them that they are doing a good job and so do the critics.
    Sometimes I would wish they would get more love from the fans. But instead it’s about what’s wrong with the show. What “Cartoony” (still find that “nickname” very offensive) does not do right.

    I would like Jill Farren Phelps sit down with Michael Logan and talk about the things that are happening on Y&R. I would love for other head writers to show interest in the fans and not only do “promising” interviews at the beginning of their tenure. But that doesn’t happen. Valentini and Carlivati sit down and talk about the serious stuff.

    I’m not happy with EVERYTHING that is happening on GH. But I appreciate a lot of it.

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    pjc722

    I read the interview and have to say that, although, I see his point in some or most of the answers I wholeheartedly disagree in his use of fan favorites on the show and the insistence on using characters that are less established all the time.

    Cartini admits that he knew the schedule of Genie Francis going into her story and knew when she was booked elsewhere, and the like. SO to write Genie’s Laura the way he wrote her out and then nothing is a disservice to the fans. That’s where he could have controlled it more and made it seem more natural then he wrote it. It’s not as if Genie Francis got sick and couldn’t come to the office. It’s not as if she fell and had to recuperate at home for weeks/months at a time out of the blue. It’s not as if the actress, god forbid, died.

    The actress signed a contract with a timeframe. So Cartini knew when she would arrive and when she would leave. So the way he wrote her leaving was a dumb and lazy exercise in sophomoric soap writing and, personally, disrespectful to the intelligence of fans.

    As for what characters get paid and the OVER GUARANTEES and such, that too is understandable. I totally get the logistics and economics of soap operas today. But, again, as a writer he knows how often the actor will appear in the show because he writes the episodes. The idea that we have Connie’s murder and AJs arrest one day and then the stories fade to the background without seeing the actors is just bad pacing on the show. The same with Liz.

    He and the producers have the power to spread those stories out and not just play them all in a HUGE GLUMP and then shelve the actors and stories for months at a time. We watch the show because of characters and stories. Not individual characters alone. I love the character of Liz and the actress. I adore Genie Francis and feel the character of Laura is sorely missed right now. Keenan is a great actor but the character of AJ is a wimp and a momma’s boy to me and I could do without him.

    But I will stop watching a show, as I have recently, with the overabundance of Sabrina, the annoying Felix and the cartoonish Dr O and Faison. Even the HOT Derek/Julian story is played in such a glump that a reveal of his true identity, which in the past on soaps would have been played out for months/year(s) before the reveal is now playing out foolishly FAST where characters are learning well before DEREK/JULIAN knows people know who he is.

    General Hospital could be one of the most amazing soaps on the air if these GUARANTEES were paid more attention to and the stories of those actors paced out over weeks and months instead of every day over a few weeks. Think what a great week it could be if on a Monday the reveal of Derek is announced and then the court room drama of Lulu and baby is revealed with Laura there and then by Friday Robin is revealed alive to the entire cast of characters. Played out slowly all the stories could have endless punch. Not just in arcs.

    It’s sad, really, because GH has some good and great stories… none of those contain Felix or Sabrina… so why can’t the best actors be there?! This is TRUE Critism, Mr Cartini. I wonder how upset you will get over more than one sentence critism.

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    ANGELWENDY15

    Despite all the negative comments,sorry, but thanks to Cartini I am finally enjoying GH again and tuning in everyday. Under Guza/Phelps, I could barely watch, I only remained loyal because the actors were so good. The show is not perfect, but neither are the other soaps. I thank Cartini for at least lightening up the show where it’s not guns and killings and car bombs all the time. I like their combination of drama with comedy. My favorites are the villians, Dr O., Faison, Ava and Julian because they are given a personality, unlike the Balkin, or James Franco’s rendition of Franco. At least Roger H adds human feelings to the role.
    Finola Hughes has been fabulous, and even Maurice has been showing more energy as Sonny. I guess Ron can’t please all the fans but I am still keeping the faith because I really like the show now. I couldn’t say that when Guza/Phelps were in charge. (If some of you could watch Soapnet right now, showing GH in 2010. We have The Balkin, Brenda’s horrible return involved with Dante, and Lucky with that fake Irish accent, and everyday Jason the perfect). It is so bad it is funny) And, all the budget issues, the soaps just are not as popular as they were in the 80’s and 90’s so we can’t have certain characters on all the time. I just want the show to survive. It could be like AMC and OLTL is now-GONE!

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    thecourt99

    [quote=Lucy D.]You can like RC, love him or hate him but really to question whether he’s a soap fan? He obviously loves soaps. I am a BIG Liz fan, and I sure think she deserves better than what she’s been handed. But she’s sure being treated better than she was by the previous regime, where she was always wrong, St. Lucky was always right and endless numbers of people essentially called her a whore. The actress was fired by Guza and Phelps. This is worse? TV writers/producers take liberties all the time. (Bobby Ewing’s year-long shower?)If it’s entertaining, why does it matter that a fictional college may have closed down? And I think ALL the blame for the Luke & Laura relationship goes to Anthony Geary. He didn’t want to work with Genie Francis, and it was painfully obvious. Plus he looked old enough to be her father. One of the things I have not seen commented on was his mention of all the negative reaction he got when he first wrote scenes for Liz and Patrick. Maybe that’s why he didn’t go there.[/quote]

    I hated Guza’s treatment of Liz, but I do acknowledge that I saw her more with Guza. So to me, it goes to the question of what you prefer? Never seeing her at all? Or seeing her with crappy story..but alot?

    The timeline is blurry between Guza, GW, and RC…but Liz was being directed towards Matt (and I was a fan). Then suddenly Matt is a killer and sent to jail. Then Liz was with Ewen…but suddenly Ewen is nuts and Liz is back in love with Jason enough to change a paternity test (I think that the change in writing for Ewen was RC). That was some BULL! My point? There has been some recent effort to write Liz a story. That stopped with RC.

    Once Ewen was gone, RC had an interview and said that Liz needed some time before she got into a relationship with someone else (or maybe it was after Jason died). Either way, RC made that comment, and I called BS then. Everyone else gets bereavement sex, but RC is the one that said that Liz needs time. That was RC’s writing choice to leave her in the cold until AJ and Nik came along. Then….he dropped that triangle altogether and put Nik with Britt. Again, the call of TPTB.

    Regarding fan reaction to Liz and Patrick? I have to give him the side eye if he listens to fans for one couple, and ignores fans for other couples or characters. That tells me he just wasn’t into it anyway. I don’t see him as the type of guy to cater to fans.

    Lastly, with Tony Geary and Genie Francis. I also give the side eye if TPTB stopped writing for GF because of TG (who was barely on screen). TG may have felt some kind of way about it, but again, RC/FV don’t cater to actors or fans either. I am more likely to believe that RC wrote a long term story for what was planned as a short term character. The result was a disjointed story with an abrupt ending. Why do I believe this? Because it happened with the character of Frisco. They knew he was available for a certain amount of time, and they dragged his time out and didn’t use it efficiently (IMO), so that his leaving was abrupt.

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    gslam

    I don’t worship at the alter of ANYONE.

    Do I like Ron Carlivati and Frank Valentini? Absolutely.

    Do I think they’ve made some mistakes? Yes. They’re not perfect.

    But, I submit, NO WRITER has EVER been perfect. There are always ebbs and flows to story lines and story rhythms. I’m getting really tired of the over-romanticising of past writing regimes with absolutely no discussion of how much the viewing public’s tastes and habits have changed, not to mention the pressure to keep this show viable, fresh, and under budget. Every writing regime has mined and revised history. EVERY writer. There’s no way these shows could have continued on for as long as they have without writers finding holes in history where additional story could be told.

    It’s easy to sit on the side and criticize a regime for any number of issues – real or perceived. I certainly would not like to be in Carlivati’s shoes, having to deal with the constant barrage of hate-filled word salad he deals with on a daily basis from so-called “fans” on Twitter and various other message boards. Most of which is nothing but garbage and opinion. And you know what they say about opinions, right?

    The fact remains that GH was on the verge of cancellation when this regime took over. Since then, the ratings have gone up, and continue to do so. We’ve seen a revitalization of legacy characters. We’ve seen the mining of history. Are things perfect? No. But to say that Ron is not a soap fan, or is a horrible writer, or has done some sort of disservice to other soaps is not based on anything but your own personal bias to which y’all are more than entitled. But stop pretending as if your personal bias is based on anything more than just that.

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    Lucy D, love your comment #28, right on! :beer: :beer: :beer:

    Bottom line for me, i told my soap friend, i’d rather be FRUSTRATED than DEPRESSED. With Genie going away “on an appt”, that leaves hope that she could be back at any minute. But had they written her a big exit scene, i would be severely DEPRESSED. She came back, did the whole New York GH press tour, did the talk show circuit, she was gracious and cooperative the whole way. Hope to see her again soon, and yes with Stephen Nichols back!

    I loved the Heather/Franco reveal last Friday. I even snickered at a couple one liners RH had with Laura Wright too. As long as he’s not on 5 days a week, i’ll survive. I’m actually way more upset that Tristan is going back to Y/R, booh!! |( |( |(

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