TMZ Reports Michael Muhney Was Fired From Y&R For Allegedly Groping Hunter King





Since news broke The Young and the Restless actor Michael Muhney (ex-Adam) had been fired from the soap opera, the serial's veteran cast and other insiders have been insisting via social media that executive producer Jill Farren Phelps wasn't at fault. Several stars also alluded there was more to the story.

A new report from TMZ delves into allegations surrounding Muhney's dismissal. According to the website, Muhney was allegedly fired for groping Hunter King's (Summer) breasts on two occasions.  From the report:

Multiple sources connected to the show tell TMZ … 38-year-old Muhney allegedly bullied and harassed 20-year-old Hunter King, who plays Summer on the show.  She went to higher-ups and complained recently Muhney had fondled her breasts on 2 occasions — and she said both were unsolicited and unwanted actions.

Sources tell us … the new allegations were the proverbial "straw that broke the camel's back."  Muhney — who is married with 3 kids — had been a problem on the set for a long time, allegedly bullying and harassing Hunter and others.  He even admitted in a recent interview with HuffPost Canada TV after getting fired, "Sometimes I've walked around with a big backpack of hubris.

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  1. Profile photo of logan_echolls
    logan_echolls

    Please remember everyone that the daytime CBS president husband works for TMZ.

    Now I’m not saying this isn’t true because apparently Sony not CBS fired him but I’m just letting people know who may not know.

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    bishbay

    The studied silence of the cast for days after his firing–except for a few who defended JFP–makes me think that there’s something to this. Also, why would a young actress trying to make her way in the business make up something like this? For that matter, why would anyone else make up something so specific (breast groping twice)?

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    Hannah Scorpio

    [quote=CarlyCfan]Gross. Should I wait for the members of his cult to come and defend this? I hope Hunter has a lot of support, poor thing.[/quote]

    Nope already a bunch of gross victim blaming look no further than the Y&R facebook page, twitter and the comments on TMZ. It’s disgusting some feel she just needs to ‘suck it up’.

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    noway

    Two things about tmz

    One-in their own header-celebrity gossip

    And their headline-ALLEGEDLY

    It’s just a little too convenient that the Delia death story conceived months ago with Adam as one of the suspects well you get the idea, that the departure was planned. Maybe another reason JG hit the door.

    Not saying he didn’t but again the EP in charge is highly suspect for her own previous actions.

    Like when Bell fired Brenda Dickson shewas just gone and Jess was hired how it played on screen was in one day out the next. Could have been the same here didn’t need to ship the character off the canvas just get rid of him. Why let him finish his scenes? You all forget the writing and production isn’t done in one day, just all very convenient.

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    logan_echolls

    [quote=bishbay]Logan, serious question: Is there a serious difference between Sony firing him and CBS firing him? Don’t they have to agree on these things?[/quote]
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    I’m not sure. I just thought it was a difference. The way Michael kept thanking CBS and JFP in his interviews made me think it was all Sony. But now that I think about it, you’re right they do have to agree on these things especially a sexual harassment charge. Hunter could sue CBS and Sony so yeah I would think they have to agree on this.

    If Angelica husband didn’t work for TMZ, I would believe everything about this story. I already heard about these charges weeks ago, that’s why I think they may be true I just don’t trust the source since it came from TMZ. Angelica could easily have told her husband to leak this story.

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    Cuppa_Coffee

    Who should have been the source? The Adam/Delia storyline was well underway before MM got turned in.
    This is not HK’s fault. He and other men can’t do this crap and just feel that it’s their right.
    I’m glad the arrogant, mediocre actor is gone. There are willing women around that would of loved his attentions.

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    ChrisGa

    I think MM’s a fantastic actor and I’ve actually warmed to the character of Adam since they paired him with MCE. Having said that, if there’s any truth to this–and like bishbay said, some of the info just seems awfully specific to be just a random fabrication–then his firing was completely justified in every sense. It’s completely deplorable and disgusting behavior on his part.

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    thecourt99

    My heart goes out to Hunter King.

    The article made me think that the issue with Hunter was the straw that broke the camel’s back. I think the Delia story could have had a twist because the first person revealed on soap mysteries is never the actual one that did it. I think the story gave them an option, but it wasn’t planned.

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    IheartGH

    This is old news that came out the day after the firing. My question is, isn’t this a chargeable offense (it is in Canada), why haven’t formal charges been laid if its true???

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    bishbay

    Logan, this is just off the top of my head but yeah I think in a situation like this with legal liability like you say that CBS and Sony would get on the same page.

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    Restless Fan

    Interesting. But as they say in Hollywood there is always more to the story.

    I have friends who work in various capacities in Hollywood. Sexual Harassment is rampant in the industry. Not everyone is getting fired for it. Things we know for sure:

    1)MM firing has put a shit storm of blame on Y&R; viewers threatening to quit watching
    2)Angelica McDaniels husband works for TMZ; convenient?
    3)MM wasn’t let go on the spot and was allowed to continue working to wrap up this arc of his storyline.

    If those allegations are true HK could sue CBS/Sony because they terminated MM for alleged indiscretion on a Monday and kept him on staff for a remaining three days. That’s suspect. I worked with an employee once who was let go for sexual harassment. During the investigation the employee was on paid leave . Once the company attorneys concluded their investigation and found said employee in the wrong, she was fired and never returned to work. There was no, let her wrap up what she’s currently working on. That mindset doesn’t paint a picture of concern on CBS/SONY’s part.

    This headline certainly will be doing one thing. Creating a division amongst the fan base actively trying to save MM’s job. In the words of Hannibal Lecter, Have your lambs stopped screaming? Im sure Angelica McDaniel’s and Steve Kent hope so.

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    Yoryla

    But isn’t Sony as the owner of Y&R the ultimate decision maker? I was under the impression that CBS is only the network that distributes the show? I’m sure they can make some demands for Sony, but isn’t Sony the one that makes the decisions.

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    yojoromo4469

    I really don’t have any idea of what may have happened. I am just really disappointed to see MM leave, as he is one of the most talented actors on the show. U may or my not like his character, but he is a good actor. Better than any of the HH people that Phelps has brought on to this once wonderful soap, that she is slowly ruining, with the hacks, such as Steve Burton and others, that lack talent.

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    logan_echolls

    [quote=Restless Fan]Interesting. But as they say in Hollywood there is always more to the story.

    I have friends who work in various capacities in Hollywood. Sexual Harassment is rampant in the industry. Not everyone is getting fired for it. Things we know for sure:

    1)MM firing has put a shit storm of blame on Y&R; viewers threatening to quit watching
    2)Angelica McDaniels husband works for TMZ; convenient?
    3)MM wasn’t let go on the spot and was allowed to continue working to wrap up this arc of his storyline.

    If those allegations are true HK could sue CBS/Sony because they terminated MM for alleged indiscretion on a Monday and kept him on staff for a remaining three days. That’s suspect. I worked with an employee once who was let go for sexual harassment. During the investigation the employee was on paid leave . Once the company attorneys concluded their investigation and found said employee in the wrong, she was fired and never returned to work. There was no, let her wrap up what she’s currently working on. That mindset doesn’t paint a picture of concern on CBS/SONY’s part.

    This headline certainly will be doing one thing. Creating a division amongst the fan base actively trying to save MM’s job. In the words of Hannibal Lecter, Have your lambs stopped screaming? Im sure Angelica McDaniel’s and Steve Kent hope so.[/quote]
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    Your comments is what got my confused regarding this. Why fire him and let him stay on set with the victim? Now I am certainly not saying he didn’t sexual harass Hunter but the victim should be protected, why he he being allowed to continue working on the same set? Why wasn’t he suspended pending investigation? It really does seem odd and could put Sony/CBS at risk for a lawsuit. Maybe that’s why Hunter was gone for a while, they were doing a secret investigation.

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    Yoryla

    Yes, plus I think that despite the charges, TPTB realized this is a big character played by a fan-favorite, and wanted to give him the chance to at least end his run properly and not out of the blue. That would have increased the shock value of it and fans would have been even more outraged than they have been now if MM would have been just dropped on the spot and not even given a proper on-screen exit. Plus I’m sure none of the people involved, MM, HK and Sony wanted the extra publicity and shock. These kinds of news are never good for anyone, even when the approriate measures have been taken.

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    SoapArmageddon

    People keep saying “why was he allowed to continue?”

    My take: We are in the era of cost-cutting. It was cheaper to let him finish the one or two additional episodes than hiring someone new. AS SIMPLE AS.

    (And I would imagine that none of those scenes involved interaction with the young actress in question, so she would not have had to worry about being uncomfortable in the presence of her alleged sexual harasser.)

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    GHFan777

    MM is done filming, but Y&R had taped him until the end of Jan. He didn’t tape much longer after he was fired….only a few days. I think he got fired on a Monday and was gone on Thursday…I am not positive about this, but I remember reading in the article he went into the office and was told he was done that week. HK probably wasn’t on the set during this time, to avoid working with him.

    I really liked MM in the role of Adam…but if this is true, I no longer feel sorry for him…rather I feel sorry for his wife and kids. ESPECIALLY since this is what he was the most concerned about in his departure interviews. All he talked about was finding another job to support his family…kind of ironic if he lost his job being a jerk like this.

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    pjc722

    I don’t know about this latest salvo against Michael Muhney. As much as I enjoy TMZ like the rest of us do a BRAVO housewives show, I have to say that everything is “alleged” and has not been confirmed.

    In England, soaps actors on those soaps have been canned for similar issues and IMMEDIATELY fired and character recast or mysteriously disappears from the canvas. AND the BBC or ITV or whichever production company makes an immediate statement of why to calm the nerves of the fans and to explain the situation.

    With Michael, it has been just that he was fired and in 3-4 months a new actor and a change in direction for the character will be put in place. LOOK, I am not blaming anyone but even the statements by veteran cast members could be read as “there’s more to the story” meaning that BUDGETS have been cut drastically and one or two cast members who salaries are enormous had to go.

    I don’t want to lessen the severity of the actions towards Hunter if true BUT I also want to keep an open mind that this could easily be GOSSIP that has picked up steam on places like this site and poured over into the TMZ.

    Remember, TMZ is just a prettier version of the NATIONAL ENQUIRER or GLOBE magazines which have had headlines like “OBAMA SECRETLY GAY” or “PRINCESS DIANA LIVING ON AN ISLAND IN GREECE” etc.

    Open mind people. Wait til more information is put out … if there is more… before we rush to say IT HAPPENED.

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    TomZulawski

    Im wondering if this is a case of what Michael would have considered joking around on the set, Hunter King took the joking as offensive and this apparently was witnessed by another actor on the show. Considering that Michael was already creating waves in the past, this could have been a way for Sony/CBS/Y&R to just get rid of him. From interviews he has given in the past, he adores his wife and children and did not come across as the sexually harassing type. I have a feeling this is a case of an inappropriate horse play on the set being taken wrong by Hunter King who didn’t know Michael Muhney all that well. This is all speculation on my part, Im just saying I can see how something like this could be viewed differently by both sides.

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    Nk3play2

    The fact that I was able to find this out on a message board, with the alleged victim’s name included, terrified me. Though I was hoping it wouldn’t get out, I assumed it would.

    Whether it is true or NOT, I don’t think they would have fired Muhney without someone to corroborate the story. If this weren’t true, CBS/Sony would open themselves up to a huge lawsuit, and that’s probably what they tried to avoid by firing Muhney.

    The person who leaked this story need their ass kicked.

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    noway

    Don’t think there would be this many people upset, if it weren’t for the MO of the EP.

    CBS/Sony is in bed with the black widow of soaps. So they need to deal with it.

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    really

    OMG really! Are there people still defending this man? WHat if this was you or your DAUGHTER that this ass sexually ASSUALTED!?!?!!?! I mean for the love of God have some thought for the poor girl who looks 18 that was assaulted.

    Also for this claiming CBS has connections to TMZ- if they made this up and leaked it MM could SUE for libel. If there was no truth to this it wouldn’t be leaked this is a serious allegation, CBS wouldn’t risk a lawsuit because some STANS are freaking out on the EP. THey’d just do what they always do and roll their eyes.

    I am glad this animal was fired and that this young girl is now safe at her job! I am also glad that he won’t be able to be hired by CBS or Sony. He deserves it.

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    RealityCheck 33

    So can we have a public execution now? The people who have hated MM act like he killed someone. Did he do something bad? Yes. Did he lose his job? Yes. Has he been publicly humiliated? Yes. Did he lose his career and ability to provide for his family? Yes. Will he ever get a job in the acting profession again? No

    Not satisfied yet? Nope.

    The sanctimonious will want blood. Perhaps a public suicide will quench their thirst for retribution. I’m sure TMZ will be happy to give him the platform.

    Hunter King gets to pay now too. Believe me, Hollywood will attach her to this for the rest of her career and people will have second thoughts about hiring her as a potential troublemaker, because this kind of stuff goes on in Hollywood all of the time. I’m not condoning it, but that’s the truth.

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    RealityCheck 33

    [quote=really]OMG really! Are there people still defending this man? WHat if this was you or your DAUGHTER that this ass sexually ASSUALTED!?!?!!?! I mean for the love of God have some thought for the poor girl who looks 18 that was assaulted.

    Also for this claiming CBS has connections to TMZ- if they made this up and leaked it MM could SUE for libel. If there was no truth to this it wouldn’t be leaked this is a serious allegation, CBS wouldn’t risk a lawsuit because some STANS are freaking out on the EP. THey’d just do what they always do and roll their eyes.

    I am glad this animal was fired and that this young girl is now safe at her job! I am also glad that he won’t be able to be hired by CBS or Sony. He deserves it.[/quote]

    Would you like to see him dead? Will that make you happy? I so happy that you’d like to see a person’s entire life destroyed over this. Clinton got away for getting a blow job from a young intern and you want Muhney destroyed. How nice for you.

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    really

    [quote=RealityCheck 33]So can we have a public execution now? The people who have hated MM act like he killed someone. Did he do something bad? Yes. Did he lose his job? Yes. Has he been publicly humiliated? Yes. Did he lose his career and ability to provide for his family? Yes. Will he ever get a job in the acting profession again? No

    Not satisfied yet? Nope.

    The sanctimonious will want blood. Perhaps a public suicide will quench their thirst for retribution. I’m sure TMZ will be happy to give him the platform.

    Hunter King gets to pay now too. Believe me, Hollywood will attach her to this for the rest of her career and people will have second thoughts about hiring her as a potential troublemaker, because this kind of stuff goes on in Hollywood all of the time. I’m not condoning it, but that’s the truth.[/quote]

    Ok so if you were sexually assaulted in the work place you’d be ok with that? Seriously to say that she is going to try to benefit from this is beyond offensive. If anything this will hurt her because sexually harassment is pretty common in Hollywood and the fact she’d talk and fight back isn’t in her favor sadly. Also MM will work again if he is any good, he just won’t be able to for CBS and Sony. So yes its limited but a lot of actors who have done worse work. This will come down to how much trouble he is and how worth it is to put up with that trouble.

    Sorry but for anyone to say anything outside of wow that poor extremely young girl is just offensive to me.

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    really

    [quote=RealityCheck 33][quote=really]OMG really! Are there people still defending this man? WHat if this was you or your DAUGHTER that this ass sexually ASSUALTED!?!?!!?! I mean for the love of God have some thought for the poor girl who looks 18 that was assaulted.

    Also for this claiming CBS has connections to TMZ- if they made this up and leaked it MM could SUE for libel. If there was no truth to this it wouldn’t be leaked this is a serious allegation, CBS wouldn’t risk a lawsuit because some STANS are freaking out on the EP. THey’d just do what they always do and roll their eyes.

    I am glad this animal was fired and that this young girl is now safe at her job! I am also glad that he won’t be able to be hired by CBS or Sony. He deserves it.[/quote]

    Would you like to see him dead? Will that make you happy? I so happy that you’d like to see a person’s entire life destroyed over this. Clinton got away for getting a blow job from a young intern and you want Muhney destroyed. How nice for you.[/quote]

    Clinton didn’t assault anyone. Monica and him were in an adult consensual although gross relationship. He was also wrongfully and illegally impeached! He paid for having an affair with a willing person. The situations aren’t even comparable. And no I don’t want him dead but I applaud Sony, CBS and Y&R for not allowing this behavior to happen. And yes I am fine if he never acts again although I doubt that happens. It has been reported he did this on Veronica Mars too. You don’t get to behave like this. He got what he deserved. Also he is in the public eye by choice so he gets to deal with the negative and the positive. If he wants to do this stuff and not be attacked in the press he shouldn’t be in the public eye.

    I feel for the victim not the assaulter. Sorry I guess I just won’t want this to happen to me.

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    patte008

    Yes I am defending this man! Until I see proof and not rumors spreaded all over the internet. These are allegations no proof and a sleazy way to come out when some ones reputation is at stake. I feel bad for both of them. Don’t believe everything you read and hear. There is always two sides to a story unless you choose to believe only one side that is thrown out there for everyone to see so the fans can split hairs. His sister stated there is no truth to these allegations so we shall see.

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    appleridge

    As always there is MM’s side, HK’s side and thruth which usually fals in the middle of the two other sides

    And yes I agree this will follow BOTH of them. However both will continue to find work although some will be wary to hire them. Some will not hire MM because of what he was alleged to have done. Some will not hire HK because she allegedly went to hire the ups and told on MM. Yes there are exces like that who might be afraid she would do that again. Is it right, no but it happens.

    Then there will be those that will hire both actors regardless of this scandal just based on their talent. But this is a bell that has been rung that cannot be unrung, true or not

    I just hope they both get help dealing with what occured.

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    RealityCheck 33

    The VERONICA MARS stuff is heresay. I’ve yet to see any proof of that, so quit spreading something not factual.

    We live in a society that loves to destroy people for sport. As I stated, I’m not condoning his actions, but there is a level of degree here. Is touching someone’s boobs on the same level as attempted rape? When I hear the words sexual assault, that means someone tried to force them into a sex act. Do we know the context of the touching? Was it something that got out of hand and she took offense? We’ll never know.

    I feel sorry for HHK because she’s now branded in Hollywood and it won’t be good for her. TMZ did that.

    By the way, CBS Daytime Chief Angelica McDaniel’s husband works for TMZ, so that’s the connection that is out there that this was purposefully leaked to the site. The word was they wanted the campaign for MM’s return stopped, so she greenlit the story to run to shut it down. Now did CBS violate a non-disclosure clause? If so, they have opened themselves up for a lawsuit. TMZ has effectively crushed his life and his potential to pursue a livelihood in the acting profession.

    MM’s career is done. He’ll never get a job in Hollywood again. Is that fair in a town that full of all things twisted? No, but that’s the way it is. His wife and kids will also pay the price. I’d expect that we’ll never hear from him again once his last show runs at the end of January.

    No one wins here. Everybody loses….except TMZ and Daytime Confidential.

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    noway

    Tmz can say anything as long as ALLEDGEDLY is attached to it. They aren’t liable for anything.
    Harvey being a laaawya knows that.

    Alleged-not proven or convicted.

    Btw-Clinton has been accused of sexual assault by at least two women, that were separate of the Lewinsky he received.

    You see I know someone who was accused by ex wife of molesting his children all over the news where he lived in mid eighties, it turned out to be false, did the news stations come out and state he was cleared of the alleged incidents? Nope

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    hopiex1

    Whether the allegations are true or not, Hunter King is now a bigger liability than Michael Muhney. No one is going to risk an accusation of sexual harrassment. Many young actors have lost their careers over such accusations. Her career is over.

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    RealityCheck 33

    Jamey, if you’re reading this. Have you reached out to Muhney? You all seemed to have such a good time talking and the rapport was terrific on the podcasts. I know he’s got representation probably telling him what to do and not to do, but I am curious.

    Also, do you think his career is done? You know the business better that most of us. I’d be curious to hear your thoughts.

    People can have second chapters, like Robert Downey Jr, but Michael never got to that level of fame. Drugs and sexual harassment are different matters entirely.

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    CinLee

    Not being a viewer of Y&R, I don’t have an opinion on either actor involved. I think TMZ did Hunter King a disservice, because I agree, casting directors are going to be wondering if she is going to accuse someone of sexual harassment.

    I also agree that something doesn’t sit right with this story on the part CBS/Sony because if it were me and I had an employee accused of this, I wouldn’t have fired him and then kept him on set working for 5 days. Other characters on different soaps have had emergency recasts to carry story. Just seems odd.

    If Michael Muhney did do as accused, it is horrible and he should be punished. If he didn’t, shame on CBS, JFP, TMZ and Angela for dragging his name through the mud rather than just admitting they wanted to cost cut/wanted him gone.

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    Nk3play2

    [quote=really]
    Ok so if you were sexually assaulted in the work place you’d be ok with that? Seriously to say that she is going to try to benefit from this is beyond offensive. If anything this will hurt her because sexually harassment is pretty common in Hollywood and the fact she’d talk and fight back isn’t in her favor sadly. Also MM will work again if he is any good, he just won’t be able to for CBS and Sony. So yes its limited but a lot of actors who have done worse work. This will come down to how much trouble he is and how worth it is to put up with that trouble. [/quote]

    @really, I think u missed @RealityCheck’s point. By the comment, he/she meant that this alleged incident will also hurt the victim’s career because her name will forever be attached to this story. This kind of stuff happens in Hollywood too often, and it always goes unreported. Because of the fact that she did something about, some people in Hollywood will label her as a trouble maker and it may hinder her ability to work other jobs. I doubt RealityCheck is condoning what happened, but he/she was just pointing out the facts, and how it could effect the victim’s career, as well as the aggressor.

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    SoapArmageddon

    It would be nice if people stopped badmouthing Hunter Haley King AND Michael Muhney. Suddenly, we’ve got a bunch of legal and showbiz “experts” talking out of their asses. Until one or both of those two parties or their duly appointed representatives address the allegations publically (which may never, ever happen), WE KNOW NOTHING.

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    Yoryla

    I agree that after Y&R it is more likely ultimately for MM to find a new job than HK. Whatever MM may or may not have done, he will always be known for his very capable acting work, and this will be a mistake, but not one that will overshadow it.

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    logan_echolls

    [quote=really]OMG really! Are there people still defending this man? WHat if this was you or your DAUGHTER that this ass sexually ASSUALTED!?!?!!?! I mean for the love of God have some thought for the poor girl who looks 18 that was assaulted.

    Also for this claiming CBS has connections to TMZ- if they made this up and leaked it MM could SUE for libel. If there was no truth to this it wouldn’t be leaked this is a serious allegation, CBS wouldn’t risk a lawsuit because some STANS are freaking out on the EP. THey’d just do what they always do and roll their eyes.

    I am glad this animal was fired and that this young girl is now safe at her job! I am also glad that he won’t be able to be hired by CBS or Sony. He deserves it.[/quote]

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    I put wrote about the TMZ connection to CBS daytime because for the past couple of weeks, fans have been bashing CBS, Angelica McDaniels and JFP. But now since the victim’s name was “leaked” all those mad fans will now turn their anger to Hunter which is what is happening on Twitter and Facebook right now.

    This was a calculated move to deflect the blame from CBS to the victim and sadly that is what is happening right now online. So I don’t trust TMZ since Angelica’s husband works for them. TMZ usually never leaks the victim’s name until after the trial or whatever is over with. Remember when that actor from Desperate Housewives was fired for sexual harassment? The actress he sexual harassed was NEVER leaked nor did TMZ name the actress. So CBS did this on purpose

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    logan_echolls

    [quote=bobbyew]HK doesn’t care. She has JFP, SONY and CBS to back her. HK is their new Darling. Sony owns everything. The girl will get a job. She ruined this mans career. Yes, he may have had a big back pack full of Hubris but a bully. I truly don’t think so. The man has four children. What kind of example would he be setting. If he did this why would he put his livelihood in jeopardy for a young piece of tail. [/quote]

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    So you’re saying a married man with kids would never sexual harass someone? You don’t think most men think with their little head and not their big head? You make no sense at all. Unless you personally know this man, you can’t call her a liar and say that he would never do that. People like you is why the rape culture is like it is now. The woman is always lying, smh

    At 3 jobs, I have had married men WITH kids come on to me, slap my butt, try to rub up against my breast and one tried to kiss me. So please gone somewhere with the “why would he put his livelihood in jeopardy for a young piece of tail” GAWD you sound dumb as a box of rocks!

    Funny how he was the ONLY Veronica Mars character to be killed. No other major character was ever killed except Sheriff Lamb. Hmmmmm, I wonder why???

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    appleridge

    TMZ shouldnt have named HHK in this. True or not both of them now have a dark cloud following them

    I agree MM will get work easier than HHK cause exces may fear HHK may say they also violated them. Most production comapnies and networks I feel would see HHK as the bigger risk and its sad,

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    RealityCheck 33

    [quote=The_Moustache]why did it take SO LONG for this site to finally report on this????

    EVERYONE else has known this for weeks now!!!!

    If it’s true I hope he goes to prison for decades.[/quote]

    So now touching breasts = decades in jail? You don’t get out much do you? Quit watching Nancy Grace.

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    BetseyD

    [quote=The_Moustache]why did it take SO LONG for this site to finally report on this????

    EVERYONE else has known this for weeks now!!!!

    If it’s true I hope he goes to prison for decades.[/quote]

    DECADES??!!? WTF is wrong with you??

    The guy ALLEGEDLY TOUCHED someone’s breasts – and you want him jailed for DECADES?? I would hate to see what your reaction would be if he were ever proven guilty of the charges!

    Again – everything is ALLEGED – neither one of the parties concerned has spoken publicly about the incident – and you are basically calling for a public execution of the accused based upon hearsay from TMZ (of all places)!

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    RealityCheck 33

    [quote=The_Moustache]Michael allegedly molested his Veronica Mars female co-stars and would also send very x-rated emails to fans.

    :-([/quote]

    All hearsay, spreading unsubstantiated rumors is just smearing, which you apparently specialize in. If there were x-rated emails, I believe we’d have seen them by now. MM is a very attractive man and a lot of folks would love to see him in all his glory.

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    dotlhs56

    I’m not sure that Y&R will be the same with Michael gone and someone else in the part. I do wish he could have behaved himself. Females has the right to deserve respect and to not be harassed or groped. Shame on Michael for this. What does this do to his family? He thought he could get by with this and was arrogant in his behavior. The death of Katherine Chancellor changed this story without another twist so soon. Jeanne Cooper is so missed but this is just a fact of life that could not be changed.

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    BetseyD

    [quote=The_Moustache]Michael allegedly molested his Veronica Mars female co-stars and would also send very x-rated emails to fans.

    :-([/quote]

    O.K.

    You need to stop this!!

    I have never heard of such allegations against MM! Not only that, if he had such a history – don’t you think that shit like this would have previously been ALL OVER the freaking internet??!?

    You need to get a hold of yourself, and stop posting these unfounded lies, accusations, and filth! The so-called facts and charges that you are leveling here are probably grounds enough for MM to bring about a (much deserved) lawsuit against you!

    It is people such as yourself who make situations like this 1000 times worse for all parties involved!

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    Yoryla

    This all mostly boils down to the basic differences of thinking and behaving on men and women’s parts in some cases. The fact is that some men just see things so differently than women. Some men feel groping women being on the same level as fooling around and joking, and not serious, it might not even have anything to do with who the woman is or whether she’s attractive or not. When a man has done such an action, it’s just instant relief for him, and he forgets about it right away and goes to do something else. To some it could also be a question of power. A man might feel that if he acts aggressive and is thought of that way, it’s easier for him to get things that he wants and to have people around him to work they way he wants. A man is often afraid that if he isn’t aggressive, he is looked upon as nothing, as a nobody, and thus lacks respect. Also, a man feels you always have to do things and try. Especially try, try, try. Now, this is not a speech on behalf of MM but it’s just kitchen psychology to explain why these things happen at all. And the truth is, that even after this many women will fall for MM and the characters he portrays, and there will be many executives, both male and female, who in reality will think “So what? He grabbed a pair of tits, what’s the big deal?” I believe the men Jeanne Cooper grabbed over the years also mostly thought this way “What’s the big deal?”. All of them probably didn’t like it, but they never would have made a case out of it. Someone grabbing your package every once in a while is small potatoes compared to getting your career up.

    The reason Sony had to fire MM is because it’s in the law, not because they necessarily wanted to. If HK had never said anything, nothing would have happened and things would have stayed as they were.

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    SoapArmageddon

    [quote=RealityCheck 33][quote=The_Moustache]Michael allegedly molested his Veronica Mars female co-stars and would also send very x-rated emails to fans.

    :-([/quote]

    All hearsay, spreading unsubstantiated rumors is just smearing, which you apparently specialize in. If there were x-rated emails, I believe we’d have seen them by now. MM is a very attractive man and a lot of folks would love to see him in all his glory.[/quote]

    Count me is one of those who would like to see him “in all his glory”.

    Seriously, though, he harassed multiple female co-workers and sent explicit emails to fans? Really?

    Something tells me the Moustache is no older than 16 years of age. ;)

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    Marcelle

    The Veronica Mars stuff is all hearsay, but the rumors have been around ever since he was fired from the show back in 2007. There were issues with him leaking spoilers and script info, plus there was bad blood between MM and Veronica Mars creator Rob Thomas hence Sheriff Lamb being killed off the show.

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    aveRex

    [quote=bishbay]Logan, serious question: Is there a serious difference between Sony firing him and CBS firing him? Don’t they have to agree on these things?[/quote]

    Nope. Sony is 100% in charge of the talent (actors). Because of the severity of this allegation and potential for sexual harassment liability suits, they were the ones to cut him. CBS had no say in the matter.

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    nysam

    At this point all of these accusations are all “alleged”.

    We all like to play arm chair detectives so hear is my two cents….

    Where there is smoke there is fire. With Bill Clinton there was Monica Lewinsky (Who he did sexually harass since she was an intern and he was the boss. It’s about the power dynamic when defining sexual harassment), Jennifer Flowers and Paula Jones…and those are the ones we know about. If Michael M. is a harasser of women why is it coming out now? He is 38 and has been on the show for 5 years surrounded by beautiful women. Muhney must be a better actor than I thought because he does come off as a family man and a true professional from what I have read and seen.

    I agree with a few comments above that say that we don’t know the full story and that there are 3 sides to every story….his, hers and the truth. All of these people are “artists”. They are creative types who I’m sure don’t work in an environments that is typical to the corporate cubicle environment that most of us know. Not saying Muhney is innocent, but I imagine that the work environment at Y&R is pretty lax and many of the actors probably don’t behave the way we would at work. Remember this is the same show where Eric Braden and Peter Bergman got into a fist fight and Michelle Stafford and Victoria Rowell had a story about being spat on. And many of you referenced Jeanne Cooper’s grabbing of men. In most work environments employees would have been fired, but not at Y&R. I’m suggesting many antics have gone on for years and it has been “acceptable” by Y&R standards. Muhney being a vet who had been in the Y&R stable for 5 years might have seen and accepted certain behavior as normal. King who is young and new to the show might have misinterpreted fraternity like behavior to be more sinister than it was ever intended to be.

    It is a sad story for both King & Muhney. In most offices environments if this happened it would not be released publically to protect both their reputations and future careers.

    From what I can see King now has a job for life on Y&R (they will never fire her) but she will be limited in getting outside roles in film and TV. As for Muhney his lawyers should go after Sony & CBS for allowing these allegations to be released. This info was between the employee and the employer. Muhney’s punishment was losing his job at Y&R. Not his entire future.

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    Edward

    First of all, Sony must have done a pretty thorough investigation on this. I’ve worked on another show with that studio where they let an actor go after he behaved inappropriately and continued to do so after being warned by their HR people. Sony is very by the book with all of this.

    I have no idea what happened but I also find it telling how many cast members spoke out in defense of JFP and the show. Truthfully, this was Sony’s call. They held the legal risk if the alleged behavior continued. I also highly, highly doubt CBS, Sony or Y&R wanted this story out there. There is no real benefit for them except a lot of bad press. I doubt MM has a legal case against any of them. If they have proof of his actions, then they are not responsible if some third party talks about what happened.

    By the way, for those MM fans who are blaming JFP, take a look at her past behavior. Historically, she has been pretty tough on her actresses while she has shown more leeway for her male problematic actors. I think it is very, very plausible that she was fighting to keep MM and Sony overruled her. Wouldn’t that be something? Folks who have been calling JFP the devil are actually on the same side as her. What does that say?

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    RealityCheck 33

    I saw this comment on the internet and had to share it:

    So Charlie Sheen bangs porn stars, inhales coke, very publicly threatens his ex-wives, girlfriends, bosses, government agencies, and complete strangers, and he becomes the highest paid actor on television (on CBS). This guy grabs some chick’s boobs a couple times and he gets fired. Sounds fair.

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    really

    I hope you remember this attitude if you or your daughter are ever sexually assaulted (and yes grabbing someone’s breasts against their will is assault) or harassed. Remember that you believe you should just shut up and take so not to ruin a man’s reputation. SMDH.

    Seriously these attitudes are why we have the rape culture we have and it is disgusting.

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    Plum

    Interesting point about Jeanne Cooper. She admitted, and many of her male co-stars confessed, that she occasionally groped them. Was her behaviour acceptable?

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    hey mon

    Mike Muhney has paid with his career for sexual harassment.

    If he has changed his behavior, I hope he can live his life out in relative peace, and have some prosperity, to provide for his 3 kids.

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    RealityCheck 33

    [quote=really]I hope you remember this attitude if you or your daughter are ever sexually assaulted (and yes grabbing someone’s breasts against their will is assault) or harassed. Remember that you believe you should just shut up and take so not to ruin a man’s reputation. SMDH.

    Seriously these attitudes are why we have the rape culture we have and it is disgusting.[/quote]

    really, you need to try and be a more forgiving individual. You are on a high horse and think it’s your way or the highway. It’s called degree and it reminds me of “The Scarlett Letter”. You don’t know the whole story, but I’d bet there is another side to this. Yet you throw out the term “rape”. That is beyond extreme. The man is ruined. What more do you want? Seriously, what is it you want? The death penalty? Public beheading?

    I’d bet you’ve done something in your life you’d rather not have the whole world know about. Everybody does.

    I’m not condoning his behavior, but I’m not going to throw the first stone either.

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    really

    [quote=RealityCheck 33][quote=really]I hope you remember this attitude if you or your daughter are ever sexually assaulted (and yes grabbing someone’s breasts against their will is assault) or harassed. Remember that you believe you should just shut up and take so not to ruin a man’s reputation. SMDH.

    Seriously these attitudes are why we have the rape culture we have and it is disgusting.[/quote]

    really, you need to try and be a more forgiving individual. You are on a high horse and think it’s your way or the highway. It’s called degree and it reminds me of “The Scarlett Letter”. You don’t know the whole story, but I’d bet there is another side to this. Yet you throw out the term “rape”. That is beyond extreme. The man is ruined. What more do you want? Seriously, what is it you want? The death penalty? Public beheading?

    I’d bet you’ve done something in your life you’d rather not have the whole world know about. Everybody does.

    I’m not condoning his behavior, but I’m not going to throw the first stone either.[/quote]

    No I don’t need to be more forgiving. I forgive a lot but sexually assaulting a young girl is unforgivable. Sorry I have standards. Also in what world is he ruined? He works in Hollywood people who have done worse then this are still working. Look at Mike Tyson. He will claim sex addiction go to rehab and all will be forgive by Hollywood. This poor girl is the one that has to deal with the fall out.

    But please remember when something like this happens to someone you love that it is not worth making a big deal and you just need to protect the person that assault them to avoid ruining their lives. To hell with the VICTIM.

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    aveRex

    [quote=Plum]Interesting point about Jeanne Cooper. She admitted, and many of her male co-stars confessed, that she occasionally groped them. Was her behaviour acceptable?[/quote]

    First of all, Ms. Cooper is deceased and should be left to rest in peace. However, since people keep bringing it up, here’s the difference between the situations with her and Michael Muhney:

    In every workplace, you have employees participating or doing things that would be questionable and against policy. Example: Profanity, jokes, and so on. Typically there are people who bond, trust each other and go along with such behavior. They are not offended because its with colleagues who have become friends they’ve bonded with and accept their behavior. Think about it — In my workplace, e.g., I know whom I can use strong profanity or do other inappropriate things with and whom I cannot. That was the situation with Ms. Cooper and the boys on the show. If someone had been offended by the gestures she did, they would’ve reported it to HR.

    With Mr. Muhney and Ms.King, it’s clearly stated to be an unsolicited advance that occurred more than once. So, you can’t use a defense that because so-and-so touched so-and-so and didn’t get into trouble, that he could do it and get the same consequence.

    Further, I can tell you that Sony has a personnel file on each person, and there are multiple items against Mr. Muhney for various things. So this wasn’t like a one strike and you’re out. He’s clearly aware of that and thus if you read his statement, he said he had to own up to it.

    Finally, it was not Sony that leaked the information, but the colleagues (cast and crew) that he worked with and was aware of the situation. Again, this is the same as at any company where people spread information they know. Of course there is bias based on each person’s spin on the information, but the base facts are true. One cannot hold the Company responsible, as Sony (nor CBS) has not made any statements to corroborate or refute the information.

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    thecourt99

    [quote=RealityCheck 33]I saw this comment on the internet and had to share it:
    So Charlie Sheen bangs porn stars, inhales coke, very publicly threatens his ex-wives, girlfriends, bosses, government agencies, and complete strangers, and he becomes the highest paid actor on television (on CBS). This guy grabs some chick’s boobs a couple times and he gets fired. Sounds fair.[/quote]

    It sucks, but when has Hollywood ever been equitable? I mean, we have Roman Polanski who has yet to resolve his criminal issues, yet he is well respected in Hollywood and even has defenders. We have too many celebrities to name that have abused girlfriends, and Chris Brown doesn’t get a break because we are now in an era where pictures will constantly remind us of the pain that he caused. I mean, Miranda Lambert famously bashed Chris Brown for winning a 2012 Grammy while she was cheering on Glen Campbell at the same event.

    Ultimately, if true, the resolution depends upon the employer. In this case, I doubt that both parties could work on the same set, so the employer had to make a choice. Who knows? Maybe they could have been liable if they didn’t do anything? Maybe this resolution kept it from being a criminal matter?

    Also, Charlie Sheen was fired from his CBS show, and while he has a new show, he is essentially the boss.

    All that said…we just don’t know what we don’t know. I don’t know either party personally. If true, I wish the best for Hunter. If false, I hope the lawsuits fly.

    The silence is rather loud though.

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    lindaem

    IMHO the SHAT is going to hit the fan for Y&R with lawsuits. As someone else posted,

    “The fact that I was able to find this out on a message board, with the alleged victim’s name included, terrified me. Though I was hoping it wouldn’t get out, I assumed it would. Whether it is true or NOT, I don’t think they would have fired Muhney without someone to corroborate the story. If this weren’t true, CBS/Sony would open themselves up to a huge lawsuit, and that’s probably what they tried to avoid by firing Muhney.

    The person who leaked this story need their ass kicked.”

    The Summer character doesn’t know it yet but her career could well be over too. Oh the powers that be will fawn all over her and tell her she did the right thing and how sorry they are for her BUT it’s really a hidden agenda they have and they USED her as the scapegoat. Mark my words Summer (don’t remember her name) will eventually pay the price as few, if any, producers will want to take a chance on an immature girl who reported a little groping scenerio. She has every right to not accept his behavior but she could have handled it differently and IF the powers that be really wanted Muhney on the show they would have sacked her for overreacting. It’s Hollywood and groping is simply part of the deal right? She needs to lawyer up and get her lawsuit ready against whoever leaked her name in this mess.

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    appleridge

    [quote=really]
    But please remember when something like this happens to someone you love that it is not worth making a big deal and you just need to protect the person that assault them to avoid ruining their lives. To hell with the VICTIM.[/quote]

    I find this comment just as bad if not worse than those who say MM should be rehired and HHK should just suck it up if True.
    Why do you have to make this personal? No one here is happy HHK was harassed. Do you have no real arguement that you must put it back on the other poster by bringing their own loved ones into it? Not classy at all.

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    appleridge

    I do wonder if True, If HHK, MM and YR made an agreement to keep this quiet. If so and someone at the company leaked it, yes both can sue & should

    I still feel bad that HHK’s name was brought up. She should have been the one to bring her name into it and no one else

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    Edward

    I wonder why anyone would accuse HK of anything inappropriate at this point. The fact that people are attempting to tear her down so they can protect their fave is disturbing. She absolutely has a right not to be touched sexually at the workplace. Period.

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    Santa_Barbara_4Ever

    “We” (the common folk not privy to the files, not witness to the events) simply can’t make a guilty/not guilty stance, ladies and gents. No need to have a war on here.

    U know what? I love MM as Adam and he is a gr8 actor! But, IF he did what has been alleged, well, there are consequences for that (just like there would be for any of us at work.)

    There could even be unseen events by anyone. It has happened where an “affair” was going on and one person gets upset and makes a false claim. NOT SAYING that’s what this is at all….Just Keep in mind, WE Don’t Know!

    I agree with much that I’ve read above, in that BOTH he & she will probably suffer from this fiasco in their professional lives for a very long time (if not forever.)

    We must all understand that IF there were allegations, then SONY had NO CHOICE but to investigate it and react accordingly. If they did not, they would be held liable for supporting a Hostile Work Environment. Now, I don’t know what they found if anything, but they could have been investigating, keeping He & She apart for that period of time and then concluded the investigation with the firing. Who knows. I hate it, I really do. Hopefully none of it is true. If it is, I wish the best for her, his kids & wife and even him. If there was a ‘fondling of the breasts’ or whatever, we don’t know the context (not that any is right in the workplace)… but we all know that there are different meanings. I’m sure JC didn’t want to ‘go down’ on every male she ‘groped’ playing around or what not….But, technically, the same fate could/would/should have gone to her as is going to MM if you keep these polices straight across the board as most companies now do.

    What a mess. I will say this though, YR creative team should take some notes. I’d rather see a juicy corporate storyline like this in GC than Dylan for one more boring ass scene! But then again, I quit YR in October, so I get my fix on the other shows.

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    RealityCheck 33

    Has any of us worked on a Hollywood set where people are there day in and day out like a soap? No, but I can assure you it’s not a normal work environment like an office setting. On a soap, half the time these folks are in their underwear of less. It’s called sex folks and that’s what soaps sell. This is a permissive environment and I’m sure a lot more than groping goes on.

    Go to Christian LaBlanc or Daniel Goddard’s Facebook pages. They are posing in their underwear or less. Sex is their business.

    Again, I’m not condoning this behavior, but I sincerely believe this whole affair was the catalyst to fire Muhney. They wanted him gone for more than this and they got their wishes and opportunity. Now it has escalated to proportions way out of the norm. But it’s Hollywood and this is what sells, the smell of scandal means money. That’s why TMZ got into this. Scandal means traffic and that means profit. The fact they published Hunter King’s name shows the ilk we’re dealing with. Now some want the destruction of someone’s life to make it all better. It’s so predictable and so tragic.

    I would like to know if Jill Farren Phelps is happy with this turn of events. Would anyone dare ask her for a comment and expect a real truthful answer? Just curious.

    I’m beginning to ramble so I guess I’ll sign off. I’m sure there will be more to the story in the days to come.

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    Santa_Barbara_4Ever

    No, it’s not a permissive environment! Do you think Victoria’s Secret Employees should put up with stuff from fellow co-workers & customers vs. what someone working at Gap should have to put up with? Absolutely Not! And VS sells sexy….It is ‘The sexiest brand on earth’ you can quote them as saying it. But I will tell you, they don’t put up with unacceptable behavior AT WORK .. period!

    I do agree with you that it is tragic. It really is. Scandals do sell; always have. I do wonder about the leaking of the names. And, I do wonder about Ang. McDaniel and her husband working for TMZ apparently.

    Intersting……

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    david46208

    @RealityCheck33: I had to comment on this. Rape Culture is a feminists conception. There is no rape culture. But if MM is guilty he is guilty.

    I’ll supply three pieces of reference here:

    http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminisms-mythological-rape-culture/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KQQ1bzQn0k

    I’ll also point you to these women who do a good job at debunking feminists lies and misrepresentations of the facts.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/HoneyBadgerRadio/videos

    Now back to the topic. I believe MM is likely to be guilty as sin of this crime. But let’s not allow an act of mysandry to take over your mind here.

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    AlexB

    I don’t know this man’s past history on previous shows so I won’t comment on them, but if there is any truth to this accusation, while working at Y&R, then Mr. Muhney needed to be fired. Things like this shouldn’t be condoned or allowed to continue. Male or female, when you come to work, it’s not unreasonable to expect that you won’t be harassed whether it be sexually or otherwise.

    I don’t think that this young woman’s name should have been put out there like that as she is the alleged victim, and it is truly messed up that she may have something of a black mark against her now because of this and how it was handled.

    I mean, if this happened, what was she supposed to do, just take it and say nothing? That’s nowhere near right. I hope that she has people behind her.

    If this is true, and Mr. Muhney is in fact at fault, then this young woman did not cost this man his job. He got himself fired, and talented actor or not, talent does not excuse an actor when they are acting a complete and total ass.

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    noway

    Let’s see this all started because people were upset with JFP and her history of firing fan faves. Then certain actor’s on the show saying there was more to it. Then someone said it was groping of Hunter King now the TMz story.

    These leakers certainly haven’t protected HK who is the alleged victim, maybe they need a pack of depends over at CBS studio city.

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    SoapArmageddon

    I don’t believe that the young lady’s career will necessarily suffer from this. There is more to the entertainment business than soaps. All she has to do is adopt some other name, perhaps Hunter Haley as first and last names, and leave Y&R off her résumé if and when she auditions for primetime or movies. Nobody will know who the hell she is or that she was involved in some tawdry soap scandal.

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    Nk3play2

    [quote=SoapArmageddon]I don’t believe that the young lady’s career will necessarily suffer from this. There is more to the entertainment business than soaps. All she has to do is adopt some other name, perhaps Hunter Haley as first and last names, and leave Y&R off her résumé if and when she auditions for primetime or movies. Nobody will know who the hell she is or that she was involved in some tawdry soap scandal.[/quote]

    Changing your name is one thing, but it is hard to forget a face. She is drop dead gorgeous, so it would be pretty difficult for her to just go by a different name and expect no one to recognize her. Y&R isn’t some random primetime show that no one will ever talk about again. Had this happened on Hollywood Heights, I’d say your advice could work, but Y&R is too big for people to just forget because the name is different. Hell, soaps are entirely too big for that to work. And it seems MOST soaps have gotten a lot of attention from the mainstream media in recent years (as @JillianBowe pointed out on a recent podcast) so it would not be that easy.

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    SoapSnob

    This is a very sad, sorrowful situation for all involved. Especially Hunter Haley King and Michael Muhney, but also for Jill Farren Phelps, Angelica McDaniel, CBS and Sony. In my opinion, this spectacle is truly highlighting the sorry, pathetic state of The Young & the Restless. Viewers should be concerned about what fascinating and extraordinary tales are being told about characters of Adam Newman and Summer Newman Abbott. Largely due to the lack of our current ever-expanding (for better or worse) digital age, when the following occurred, I never recall hearing about them at that time – Jaime Lyn Bauer’s contract negotiations, Brenda Dickson’s firing, Terry Lester’s firing/resignation/mutual dismissal, Peter Bergman and Eric Braeden coming to fisticuffs. Because I was getting good and compelling drama on my television screen, I was not concerned with what was happening behind the scenes. Sony and CBS really, Really, REALLY need to call an internal meeting to resolve Y&R’s issues which are far more than this Human Resources and Public Relations nightmare. And they need to include a Bell. But not Maria Arena Bell.

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    radrobd

    ” I never recall hearing about them at that time – Jaime Lyn Bauer’s contract negotiations, Brenda Dickson’s firing, Terry Lester’s firing/resignation/mutual dismissal, Peter Bergman and Eric Braeden coming to fisticuffs.”

    Bergman and Braeden’s fisticuffs in the 90s was widely reported in the soap press, with reports in Soap Opera Digest and TV Guide.

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    arielade

    I haven’t been back to DT in a while because my soap watching has majorly declined due to life events. However, I used to be a regular poster and faithful reader and podcast listener.

    That being said, this has to be the saddest commentary I have ever read on a post. Even the discussion of racism at Y&R didn’t seem to be as contentious as this discussion.

    I have read that this is normal behavior in Hollywood and women need to shut up and be grateful for the attention. I have read that this young woman isn’t pretty enough to receive unwanted attention. I have read the MM is too pretty to behave like that because who wouldn’t want their breasts grabbed by him. I have also read that their is no such thing as “rape culture”. I am reeling.

    What we can all agree on is that we don’t have all the facts and we need to remember that no matter what side we are on. That being said people do have the right to speculate and discuss shocking allegations. It’s how people cope.

    Grabbing breasts is wrong in any environment, if that is actually what happened. I would also like to add that power plays a lot in these situations. MM is a large man and a veteran cast member now. He would be intimidating to just talk to for most newbies. Also, regarding JC allegedly groping men, I question how many of them felt intimidated by her and feared for their safety? Again, the power dynamic makes a huge difference here. Is the behavior still wrong? Of course!

    Regarding rape, there is a huge difference between grabbing breasts and actual rape. Yes, both are sexual assault to be sure, and both are part of rape culture, I agree. But we really shouldn’t speak about rape and MM in the same sentence right now. It’s not fair to him or to HK.

    Regarding rape culture, 1 out of 4 women will be raped and 1 out of 3 women will be sexually assaulted or molested in their lifetime in the US. Over 95% of rapists are not held accountable for their crime. We live in a culture that makes violence against women permissible, whether you want to acknowledge it as rape culture or not. But again, this really does not belong in a conversation about whether MM sexually harassed a coworker.

    This entire situation is just so sad and it isn’t the kind of press that soaps need. MM is a huge talent and I loves him on Y&R even though I hated him most of the time! (I think that speaks to his talent as an actor). I just feel sorrow for everyone involved, especially HK. I would hope that we are in a society now that doesn’t blame women for speaking out, but judging by the comments she is getting, I know that is not the case. So so sad.

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    nysam

    Averex… First let me say I loved Jeanne Cooper and her portrayal of Mrs. Chancellor, but I wanted to address your comment which comes off as a double standard of sexual harassment.

    Just because someone doesn’t report sexual harassment doesn’t mean they are okay with it. Jeanne Cooper was THE star of Y&R being the longest cast member on the show. Besides Eric Braeden there was probably no other actor who had the clout with Bill Bell, CBS, Sony or any other EP. With her “power” many of the young male actors probably didn’t report the gropings and laughed them off thinking no good would come of it and they would most likely lose their jobs.

    Stop and think about it. How many young men do you know who are happy to be groped by a senior citizen?? That is creepy if not creepier than a 20 year old being felt up by a 38 year old man.

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    CarlyCfan

    [quote=arielade]I haven’t been back to DT in a while because my soap watching has majorly declined due to life events. However, I used to be a regular poster and faithful reader and podcast listener.

    That being said, this has to be the saddest commentary I have ever read on a post. Even the discussion of racism at Y&R didn’t seem to be as contentious as this discussion.

    I have read that this is normal behavior in Hollywood and women need to shut up and be grateful for the attention. I have read that this young woman isn’t pretty enough to receive unwanted attention. I have read the MM is too pretty to behave like that because who wouldn’t want their breasts grabbed by him. I have also read that their is no such thing as “rape culture”. I am reeling.

    What we can all agree on is that we don’t have all the facts and we need to remember that no matter what side we are on. That being said people do have the right to speculate and discuss shocking allegations. It’s how people cope.

    Grabbing breasts is wrong in any environment, if that is actually what happened. I would also like to add that power plays a lot in these situations. MM is a large man and a veteran cast member now. He would be intimidating to just talk to for most newbies. Also, regarding JC allegedly groping men, I question how many of them felt intimidated by her and feared for their safety? Again, the power dynamic makes a huge difference here. Is the behavior still wrong? Of course!

    Regarding rape, there is a huge difference between grabbing breasts and actual rape. Yes, both are sexual assault to be sure, and both are part of rape culture, I agree. But we really shouldn’t speak about rape and MM in the same sentence right now. It’s not fair to him or to HK.

    Regarding rape culture, 1 out of 4 women will be raped and 1 out of 3 women will be sexually assaulted or molested in their lifetime in the US. Over 95% of rapists are not held accountable for their crime. We live in a culture that makes violence against women permissible, whether you want to acknowledge it as rape culture or not. But again, this really does not belong in a conversation about whether MM sexually harassed a coworker.

    This entire situation is just so sad and it isn’t the kind of press that soaps need. MM is a huge talent and I loves him on Y&R even though I hated him most of the time! (I think that speaks to his talent as an actor). I just feel sorrow for everyone involved, especially HK. I would hope that we are in a society now that doesn’t blame women for speaking out, but judging by the comments she is getting, I know that is not the case. So so sad.[/quote]

    Preach.

    You’re making too much sense for some people here.

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    Yoryla

    [quote=Edward]By the way, for those MM fans who are blaming JFP, take a look at her past behavior. Historically, she has been pretty tough on her actresses while she has shown more leeway for her male problematic actors. I think it is very, very plausible that she was fighting to keep MM and Sony overruled her. Wouldn’t that be something? Folks who have been calling JFP the devil are actually on the same side as her. What does that say?[/quote]

    Nothing, because at this point most people think firing MM was the right thing to do, which if JFP tried to hold onto him, sheds a bad light on her still yet again.

    Also, no, HK doesn’t have to “suck it up”, but she does have to accept the fact that it might have an impact on her career.

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    Willow57

    I couldn’t agree more with every single word you said. I used to be one of those who loved to hate the character of Adam-until recently when I had started to like him somewhat and understand him better. This is a sad situation all around.

    MM is a very good actor in the role of Adam and I am going to miss his character and the way he played it. I am also one of those who couldn’t stand the new character of Summer and hoped that they would hurry up and get rid of the actress who played her. She can’t act! Now-since she has leveled these allegations(if she did) I have a feeling we are going to have to suffer forevermore with her no acting self. Because they will never get rid of her now……they would be afraid of a law suit intimating that they fired her because she complained of sexual harassment; and not the fact that she just can’t act!

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    Willow57

    Yep you are right about that……people in Hollywood will always think twice and maybe three times before they hire Hunter King. Not just because of the sexual harassment allegations but also for the very fact that she can’t act!

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    westerndeb

    I can’t believe how people have become judge and jury on this issue. It seems to me that the leak to TMZ was a calculated plan to split the Muhney supporters and drive a wedge that would kill the bring back Michael Muhney bandwagon. Well played, whoever you are because it appears to be working in that there are a lot of “fans” out there who very quick to judge despite having no concrete proof. I’ve always been a fan, but can no longer watch this soap. The whole situation is sad and sickening. :(

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    appleridge

    http://highlighthollywood.com/2014/01/exclusive-highlight-hollywoods-cbs-sony-sources-outs-tmzs-source-in-the-young-and-the-restless-firing-scandal-and-wil-cbs-fire-her-next-2/

    The source of the vicious story that hit TMZ on Friday night is CBS Daytime honcho Angelica McDaniel.

    The Sony insider says, “She’s been protected for a while now, but this violation of a person’s privacy, and having made a scandal to protect her own job, for this CBS should fire Angelica McDaniel today. Everyone knows where the leak came from, and they are outraged. If she’s not fired, not only are actors and young actresses going to feel as though they are not safe to report alleged sexual harassment or assaults, but now they may fear being discarded and outed by CBS itself. This is unethical, and I am sure some heads will roll.”

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    appleridge

    [quote=RealityCheck 33]Soaptown USA reports that Billy kills Adam, so that’s the end on January 30th. Good time to leave this shit fest of a show. Fuck Y&R.[/quote]

    Loose Lips reported it as a rumor not fact. So guess time will tell

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    ANGELWENDY15

    This whole thing is just so sad. I really liked Michael M as an actor, and he was one of the main reasons I kept watching the show during these past few months where the show has been just plain BORING. He is Adam to me, I really can’t see another actor playing the part so unfortunately, if those rumors are true, I’m glad the character will be killed off. But by Billy? I guess this is a way of Billy Miller really going out in full-force. But then, what will happen to the character of Billy?

    I feel the most bad for MM’s family. He has such a beautiful wife and gorgeous children and I can just imagine how his wife must feel. He put so much shame and embarrasement on them, shame on him!! All this because he had to grope a 19 year old girl?! The man is definetly an egomaniac (from all the quotes I read that he has said. No wonder he was always tweeting. He tweeted my friend because she said some nice things about him, like, ” you are like superman.”) He obviously liked that because he would tweet her on and off. The man needs to constantly have his ego stroked. I wonder how he feels now? He will never work on another soap because they all hate bad publicity. He is very talented and I will miss him on the show. He needs to do some soul-searching and stop thinking about himself and realize what a beautiful family he has. I hope they stick by him.

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    Cuppa_Coffee

    He’s a puke!! If he were so innocent of all this he would be standing on the tallest building pounding his chest and claiming his innocence.
    The “other” people have to step up and say they were too.
    MM has 3 kids, not 4. Pretty soon he will have a halo and playing a harp.
    Bullshit!

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    LaDivaYR

    Happy New Year, bitches!

    I went away for my holiday vacay and it looks like I missed most of the circus! Luckily some of the clowns are still around and they are hilarious. No need to name names because we all know who they are (probably the same person posing as multiple users). I thank you for making me laugh so hard this morning!

    LOL at the ones calling for more support for the alleged victim. The only support she needs is a steel-lined Victoria Secret to lift and separate them fake boobs. Bitch, phu-lease!

    Hell hath no fury like a thirsty starlet scorned! Hussy goes for a married man and then cries wolf when he ignores her… how original! Lucky her JFP was looking for an excuse to fire the guy who was throwing shade at her precious Dyldo! MM’s talent can’t be denied so she had to eliminate him from the show. In comes the thirsty twat ready and WILLING to play victim in front of the TMZ bloggers. A match made in hell!

    Must say this mess is far more entertaining that the sorry shit they parade on Y&R day in and day out: Dyldo’s constipated face blabbing about nothing with Blahvery (zzz). Lady Leblanc over-emoting and twirling in them prison garbs (zzz). Grambo Braeden recycling the same dialogue over and over to a barely awake Miss Melody (zzz). Peroxide VICTIMS Summer & Pigney pretend to “act” while the audience laughs, etc. etc. etc.

    Thank God for DAYS and General Hospital. Those two shows are on fire right now… Y&R is done, put a fork in the orange duck!

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    pferrando

    The next one who needs to go is Phelps for continuing to foster this behind the scenes behavior.

    Her favoritism got her into quite a mess this time.

    CBS/Sony needs to take some action of their own where she’s concerned.

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    aveRex

    [quote=appleridge][quote=RealityCheck 33]Soaptown USA reports that Billy kills Adam, so that’s the end on January 30th. Good time to leave this shit fest of a show. Fuck Y&R. … Loose Lips reported it as a rumor not fact. So guess time will tell[/quote]

    Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a murder-suicide. Billy kills Adam and himself. The David Tom casting could be fake or for another role.

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    ANGELWENDY15

    LaDivaYR- Thanks for making my day. You had me laughing so much, and I really needed a good laugh. Your comments on the constipated Dylan, and Lady Leblanc, so hysterical, and you hit it on the nail about Braeden, Mr. Mumbles, and Melody and her sometimes sleep-walking acting. You are so funny! It is so sad that the actor that kept me watching the show, Michael M., during these grueling boring few months of the show, is fired. I still can’t understand how Y &R is getting these high ratings when the show has been just awful.

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    yojoromo4469

    [quote=ANGELWENDY15]LaDivaYR- Thanks for making my day. You had me laughing so much, and I really needed a good laugh. Your comments on the constipated Dylan, and Lady Leblanc, so hysterical, and you hit it on the nail about Braeden, Mr. Mumbles, and Melody and her sometimes sleep-walking acting. You are so funny! It is so sad that the actor that kept me watching the show, Michael M., during these grueling boring few months of the show, is fired. I still can’t understand how Y &R is getting these high ratings when the show has been just awful.[/quote]

    XLNT POST.

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    Yoryla

    [quote=LaDivaYR]Must say this mess is far more entertaining that the sorry shit they parade on Y&R day in and day out: Dyldo’s constipated face blabbing about nothing with Blahvery (zzz). Lady Leblanc over-emoting and twirling in them prison garbs (zzz). Grambo Braeden recycling the same dialogue over and over to a barely awake Miss Melody (zzz). Peroxide VICTIMS Summer & Pigney pretend to “act” while the audience laughs, etc. etc. etc.[/quote]

    Bwaaaaaaaaah!

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    BloughMee

    Oh HELL H E L L no. Many an actor (and actress) have said and done SOOO much worse and still maintained a career – for decades. So what if he did give her nubile titties a little feel? Can you really blame him? They’re soap opera “stars” after all – it would have happened sooner or later on-camera. Next we’ll find out from TMZ that they are or were “dating” or that he is or was “dating” her bestie, etc etc. It’s all crap – she’s done nude or near-nude scenes in other roles so what’s the problem? As far as I’m concerned she should have handled him with a kick in the balls, not going running to the producers. As much as I’ve always hated him, “Adam” was an interesting character. Unlike some of the others – he’ll be easy enough to replace.

    I think it’s more likely that Michael is and was a general douchebag to work with – probably nobody liked him, so it was “See Ya – don’t let the screen door hit you in the a$$…”

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    BloughMee

    Oh COME ON. You can’t possibly be serious that “one out of four” women in the US have been RAPED… That is a ridiculous number, and the kind of Quasi-statistic that makes people like you lose all credibility. Rape and “rape culture” are definitely no good – horrible in fact – but it does NOT help your cause to wildly exaggerated, unsubstantiated numbers.

    If what you’re saying is true, 1/4 of all women being RAPE VICTIMS, that means that roughly 1-in-3 men must be RAPISTS (I’m allowing for some multiple rapes per rapist). Or are you also counting Woman-on-Woman rapes? What about Dog-on-Woman rapes? There are roughly 150,000,000 females in the USA, so by your statistics, 37,500,000 will be rape victims and 50,000,000 men, one million per state – are rapists ?? THAT IS NONSENSE.

    Now let’s talk “Media”. When every other scene in daytime, prime-time, and cable are sex scenes of some type, and practically ALL music videos have sexual content – often explicit, what did you expect would happen? One B-grade actor fondling a sweet young thang (who probably was egging him on – sorry it’s Hollywood. Today’s tease is tomorrow’s lawsuit) does not ‘rape culture’ make. We have 500 channels of television and 495 of them aren’t worth watching. Blame the producers who are putting the crap on the air.

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    pferrando

    Remember that out of the blue storyline this past summer when that lawyer chick cried “sexual harassment” at Adam?

    I wonder if Phelps (via the writers) was giving MM a warning at that time in a very art imitates life way?

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    harlee490

    [quote=pferrando]Remember that out of the blue storyline this past summer when that lawyer chick cried “sexual harassment” at Adam?
    I wonder if Phelps (via the writers) was giving MM a warning at that time in a very art imitates life way?[/quote]

    P~ I never thought about that story but you might just be correct a way to send a message :O

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    ChrisGa

    [quote=pferrando]Remember that out of the blue storyline this past summer when that lawyer chick cried “sexual harassment” at Adam?
    I wonder if Phelps (via the writers) was giving MM a warning at that time in a very art imitates life way?[/quote]

    Wow, great observation. I never thought about it but that s/l definitely was out of nowhere then wrapped up mighty quickly. Interesting….

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    nolongeryrfan

    Young and Restless stinks. I have been a fan for over 30 years. I’m done.
    I am now a huge Bold and Beautiful fan..
    Please, Jill..when Y&R goes under, please stay away from B&B…
    Time for you to look for a new career.

    If Muhney did what Hunter is saying he did, why wasn’t he fired immediately?
    But he is continuing to film until Jan 30th??? I think that right there tells you it is a bunch of crap. What if he rapes her in the dressing room or something between now and then??? I would think Jill, Sony, and Y&R would not take that chance, if this is indeed true..

    I am sure all actors have an ego..Eric Braden has the biggest. I am so over the Victor,Nikki, Jack, Neil, Cane, Lily, Abby and her new boyfriend story..And sorry Hunter, you are a terrible actress….
    Goodbye Y&R, you have lost me after 33 years.

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    SoapArmageddon

    [quote=harlee490]Lord have mercy, on fly by night comments[/quote]

    :bigsmile:

    And more so when you consider the fact that they mutually agreed for him to continue filming for THREE DAYS only.

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