HomeTVABCTerrell Tilford Joins The Young and the Restless Jillian Bowe May 5, 2014 ABC, CBS, Comings & Goings, News, One Life to Live, Single Ladies, The Young and The Restless, VH1 43 Comments So much for my idea of Nate Jr being Leslie's (Angell Conwell) secret husband on The Young and the Restless. Soap Opera Digest is reporting Terrell Tilford is coming to The Young and the Restless as Barton. He starts taping May 13. Look for the Single Ladies star to first air June 13. 43 Responses Camp is not a sustainable model May 6, 2014 Now FoxCrane that could be interesting. Sounds like a good storyline. Heck, he could be related to any number of them based off his look. Now they just need Marla Gibbs to come in call everyone, “bed hoppin’, Pill Poppin’ whores!” Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 6, 2014 Nothing against the actor, but they sure are casting a lot euro-centric looking black actors on the show. Angie Conwell is the only hot chocolate they have. Most black people are not fair-skinned. But this has been a history with the show ever since 2000. And in that way it reinforces the notion of light-skinned being preferred. Back in the 90’s soaps had far more skin tone variation of black actors and actresses. There was no light-skinned people on Generations. So this is just a little troubling trend I noticed and wanted to point out. Besides that, Y&R seems to be the place that knows its audience. So I’m waiting to see what he brings to the screen. And just how long will TT be around this time. I guess they said you can have more black people, but they ain’t gonna be Lupita’s color. Note: CK is not black as she does not identify as black. So out of respect, I won’t include her among the black people. Even though she plays a black women on TV. Log in to Reply FoxCrane May 6, 2014 Given TT’s age, this could also mean he might turn out to be Hilary’s father. Recall, in her elevator scene with Jill, “Ann Turner” (Hilary’s birth name), told Jill how she’d been raised alone by her mother, Rose, as her bio-dad had vanished after being arrested. (And, David46208 – I understand what you’re saying, but I didn’t find Sophia, NotMalcolm, NuLily, or Hank Weber “euro-centric.”) Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 6, 2014 I want Barton to be Hilary’s father. However, I doubt they go there. I don’t think they would want to limit the possibility of pairing them. JMO. As for the looks and color of the black cast. I think BJ and TT are the only light skinned folks on that list. I am a medium brown person myself so I probably use that as a benchmark because I never considered myself light. I actually thought MM was dark and was surprised at they didn’t go lighter. Lol. As for features, I don’t think any one has those but RW. CK dont look black but dhe doesnt look white either. I know KSJ is biracial but he has never looked it to me. VR did but not him or BJ. They are like President Obama to me. If no one told me they had a white momma, I would never guess it. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 6, 2014 @Divatude58: I’m am interested in seeing how Barton fits into things. Imagine Neil shaking his hand and saying his name as they stare each other down. I’d like for Barton to say that Hilary is just a child and the mention that he sees where Lily got her morals and values from. Meaning that what father would agree with his late teen’s daughter marrying a man who was in college when she learning her ABC’s…hehe… Log in to Reply harlee490 May 6, 2014 Here we go again ANOTHER NEW character to eat up more of our beloved vets getting less airtime. Log in to Reply reggyreg May 6, 2014 David46208, As soon as I saw they casted TT I also thought about most of the African Americans on the show being fair skinned. It is 2014 and we still have to deal with this foolishness. Colorism in our community has always been a problem and seeing it up front and personal on daytime television and other mediums does not help! Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 6, 2014 [quote=david46208]@Divatude58: I’m am interested in seeing how Barton fits into things. Imagine Neil shaking his hand and saying his name as they stare each other down. I’d like for Barton to say that Hilary is just a child and the mention that he sees where Lily got her morals and values from. Meaning that what father would agree with his late teen’s daughter marrying a man who was in college when she learning her ABC’s…hehe…[/quote] To be quite honest, I am more excited about this casting for what it means for Neil and KSJ than I am for Leslie. Neil needs a rival, romantic and otherwise, that is NOT family and that is not 20 years his junior. He needs an equal. This could be great for him. Log in to Reply Restless Fan May 6, 2014 I don’t care how cute he is. Right now his only connection is to Leslie. Why does JFP insist on building the future of Y&R on everything except the history of it? She’s maddening as a producer. So far Y&R’s track record for creating new, compelling characters under JFP has been bleak. They come in with no real plan and we the audience get to watch them restructure history to make these vapid newbies fit. They don’t write for most of the characters they do have and they keep bringing in more. I don’t think JFP gets why the audience hates her. We watch her stupidity play out daily. We watch how her newbies choke the life out of the vets so they have a leg to stand on. NO MORE NEW CHARACTERS! WRITE FOR THE ONES YOU HAVE! WRITE FROM HISTORY! WHY IS THIS CONCEPT SO HARD FOR JFP’S LITTLE BRAIN TO UNDERSTAND? Why is Leslie getting a husband when you have characters like Noah and Abby in limbo? Characters who have real ties but are being wasted as props to JFP’s bad ideas. On the narrative end, she’s garage sell talent and needs to go away! She’s good at flipping a set, that’s about it. Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 6, 2014 @reggyreg: Correct if we want to do the skin color categories for black people it would be generally broken down like this: Most of the actors fall into Brooke Kerr’s skin category of blackness. They are in that light range. Kristoff is just in beginning of the brown range. Angie Conwell (depending on the lighting) is somewhere between the middle or the end of the brown range. Most black Americans are in the Tonya Lee Williams brown ranges. More Continental Africans fall into the Tika Sumpter dark ranges. So while I am glad to have more black people on the screen, they could do to look at the color wheel more when casting. That’s the South African Generations. That is more representative of black Americans and it is not even in America. Anyways, here is to seeing what TT brings to the screen. Log in to Reply jeremy in chicago May 6, 2014 Y’all, he is very very good looking. And one of the worst actors EVUH. I guess no one sent Jill Phelps a tape of his “work” from OLTL. Utterly dreadful. Like, Ryan Peavy dreadful. Good luck with that. Log in to Reply angrierblackerman May 6, 2014 Kiss all those new set pieces goodbye, he will show up in every scene with a Lobster bib on ready to chow down! Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 6, 2014 @David. Yeah, that cast of generations does look like it might be a true representation of AAs by skin color choices. But note that NONE of the women are dark. And that is a huge problem IMO. I often see dark skinned men on TV but it is rare to see dark skinned women. If Most continental Africans are dark, then choosing mostly brown or light is the same step away of true representation. Makes sense being that we know colorism in Africa is just as bad as in the states. Log in to Reply Dyllan May 6, 2014 If I remember correctly, wasn’t this guy a shitty actor? Wasn’t he stiff and boring? At least Y&R is improving its diversity. Does anyone remember MAB’s tenure and how she wrote Devon boinking his aunt Tyra? Log in to Reply 1titanman May 6, 2014 WOW! Terrell a good actor and his wife prego so that $$$ will come in handy. He done Daytime and some Primetime work. So well see how this story going to be played out. Log in to Reply SoapArmageddon May 6, 2014 [quote=jeremy in chicago]Y’all, he is very very good looking. And one of the worst actors EVUH…..[/quote] This is the truth. Log in to Reply logan_echolls May 6, 2014 As long as he doesn’t run down the hospital hallways acting a fool he should be ok Log in to Reply soapbaby May 6, 2014 So glad to read other comments sharing my opinion that Mr. Tilford is a HORRIBLE actor. I remember he was completely miscast as David Grant on Guiding Light so I didn’t pay too much attention to his acting. Well, I was in for a real treat when hammed it up on OLTL! Yikes. Re: representations of skin color on daytime/TV, I happen to agree with david46208. There’s a lot more that could be done in this medium. Diversity is more than including minorities but understanding the diversity of looks within the group. Re: this new character on Y&R…why? Jillian Bowe was right in that the show should’ve/could’ve cast Nate Jr. in the role. Well, at least the character is not related to Neil since they’ll mix it up. Y&R has Black characters but does a horrible way crafting quality stories for these characters for years now predating JFP’s involvement. Neil/Sophia/Malcolm anyone? How incestuous the Black characters are? Log in to Reply Jon May 6, 2014 I know TT from the show The DL Chronicles. He has no problem playing gay and I give him props for that. I think he’s very handsome. I don’t care what color he is. Log in to Reply pferrando May 6, 2014 Not familiar with him, so we’ll see. Log in to Reply Coffee_Junkie May 6, 2014 Never heard of him. Kristoff St. John can’t be feelin’ the love right about now. Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 6, 2014 KSJ hasn’t felt the love in quite some time. Log in to Reply soapbaby May 6, 2014 ^^ I can’t agree with this sentiment. KSJ is a featured player and Neil is currently carrying on with a very attractive, MUCH younger woman AFTER his dating/engagement with a very attractive, MUCH younger woman. KSJ is probably raising a glass as we type! IMO, Neil is a terribly boring character and has always been outside of Drucilla. KSJ is a flat actor and brings very little to the table besides being a veteran actor. A rivalry between Neil and Barton/screentime inhabited by both KSJ and Terrell Tilford at once = SNOOZE. Hilary and Leslie are played by vibrant, beautiful and talented woman who are currently being wasted by TPTB. Frankly, I have never enjoyed how the Black characters have been ghettoized on Y&R, meaning they rarely share interesting story with non-Black characters. Neither Tabby or Lane qualify as “interesting.” Log in to Reply pferrando May 6, 2014 I’m just glad that YR has the large diverse cast it does. You’ve NEVER seen that on any other soap other than Generations/NBC. But the audience didn’t support that show. BUT, all the characters need to have strong stories, and that’s been the issue since Latham took over. I don’t like Phelps, but she has beefed up the Winters presence. Log in to Reply RebeccaJ May 6, 2014 I think Leslie’s secret husband is going to be the guy that Dylan met with at the cult headquarters when he was looking for Ian Ward. Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 6, 2014 [quote=pferrando].I don’t like Phelps, but she has beefed up the Winters presence.[/quote] I think that JFP does write more for the black characters than MAB. But what she has done is brought on more black characters that are not related to the Winters. And I thank her for that. And I feel the need to state this because I see lots of folks getting this confused: Every black person on this show is NOT a Winters or Winters related. Tyler, Leslie, Mason, Barton, and Hilary are NOT Winters or Winters relations (YET). But for some reason, there are viewers who lump all black characters together. This is not the case. Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 6, 2014 @soapbaby KSJ is a featured player in name only. When he gets the airtime and story of the other featured male players, then I will call him a lead. Right now he is not. He can’t even crack the top ten in episode counts each month. I find it hard to believe that KSJ enjoys getting inappropriate pairing after inappropriate pairing that is doomed to fail regardless of how young and pretty his screen partner may be. I can only see him raising his glass if he finally gets a lasting/long term pairing with a veteran actress of the show. Otherwise, he is just going along to get along. LOL I have always found it so odd how viewers complain that black characters only interact with other black characters but no one complains how white characters only get story with other white characters. When I started watching this show, the black characters worked so they had interaction with someone other than black characters, but their personal lives were conducted with other black characters, i.e. the people they were married to or dating and their relatives. Only recently, over the last 5 years or so, have I seen this complaint. I think it is partly because MAB wouldn’t write for the black characters so fans began to see having story with white characters as a way to get black characters story. And I can only surmise that this mind set is also developed in the bowels of white privilege where white is the norm and mainstream and POC are the other that must strive to have story with them. Log in to Reply soapbaby May 6, 2014 @ Divatude58: I agree with several of your points however I strongly disagree with your point about viewers’ wishing to see Black characters interact with White characters as having mind sets developed in the “bowels of White privilege.” That’s an extreme statement. I liked Liv interacting with Ashley and Brad; Drucilla going head to head with Phyllis; Nate working with Paul; Neil’s friendship with Ryan; Mimi and John’s fling. I liked those interactions because I am of the mind set that the characters I have invested years in interact across the fictional canvas. It opens up more story opportunities for ALL characters. I think it’s a major problem that fictional Genoa City feels like a place where individuals only interact with either love interests or one family member at a time! Finally, I made sure not to refer to KSJ as a “lead” because he is not. He is featured regularly. I am sure he “raises a glass” he receives a paycheck for turning in one bland performance after the next. And as far as him not having lasting pairings, one could say the same for Jack Abbot who I think is still a lead on the show. Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 6, 2014 @soapboy My comment about the lasting pairing was in direct reference to your comments. It seemed that you were implying that KSJ would be happy to be working alongside young beautiful newbies. My point was I doubt this is the case. I am pretty sure that KSJ would prefer to work with older actresses connected to canvas/core. Do you really think he would choose Hilary as Neil’s pairing when he can have Sharon, Victoria, or even semi newbie Avery? I agree that KSJ is happy for a paycheck. And Neil should be a lead. I agree that I like when people have friendships as well as spouses and family it makes for a more rounded character and it does open up the canvas for EVEYRONE. However, again, I must have misunderstood you. The terms you used were specifically about black characters interacting with only black characters and the desire to see them interact with white characters accompanied by the use of the terms ghetto-ized and “interesting”. I admit to being offended by that. And I apologize for reading more into it. Your complaint about character interactions is not one that only applies to the black characters though which is why I was bothered. Ex: When was the last time Victoria interacted with anyone that wasn’t family or a love interest. The same for Lauren or Billy. It’s the same for any character on the show unless they are a lawyer, cop, or possibly, a doctor. But for some reason, it seems to bother viewers when black people interact with their black love interest and their black family. That just seems off to me. Log in to Reply FoxCrane May 7, 2014 I’m taking a wait and see. I didn’t care for his acting on OLTL most of the time, but enjoyed him in the DL Chronicles. Log in to Reply Blue Skies and Palomino Ponies May 7, 2014 [quote=RebeccaJ]I think Leslie’s secret husband is going to be the guy that Dylan met with at the cult headquarters when he was looking for Ian Ward.[/quote] That’s interesting, Rebecca — because brainwashing might be about the only way I’ll be able to accept Leslie’s sudden about-face on marriage. Though I’m not sure that brainwashing a law school grad can happen in the span of six days, either. I thought it was so intriguing to have a female character who didn’t see marriage as the end-all/be-all, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how we’re going to break this down so that it ??? makes ??? sense??? Log in to Reply pferrando May 7, 2014 Diva…of course not all the black characters are related to the Winters. I didn’t really say that. But the newer characters…Tyler, Mason, Hilary, Esmeralda, and Leslie (not new) have had stories with them which increases their visibility and screen time. This new dude Barton, I’m sure, will also be in their orbit due to Leslie. But we need good story. I find all of them interesting characters and good actors. Tyler is the exception. And unlike most…I’d love to see more of vapid Esmeralda with Devon. I don’t think Maria wrote for them as often. And while some of the stories have fizzled, they pretty much have been used more than other core characters like Summer, Noah, Paul and even Michael and Lauren lately. This cast has more balance that any of the other shows. It’ll never happen in the near future, but GC could also use a strong Latin presence. Log in to Reply logan_echolls May 7, 2014 The guy who played Taggert on GH tweeted he auditioned for a role on YR. It must have been this role. He shouldn’t have tweeted that now everybody knows he didn’t get it Log in to Reply SoapArmageddon May 7, 2014 [quote=logan_echolls]The guy who played Taggert on GH tweeted he auditioned for a role on YR. It must have been this role…[/quote] Réal Andrews? Damn, that man was sexy. I still remember watching GH with my then-girlfriend and watching him as Taggart back in the day and feeling the “rising heat”, which was not precisely because of having her next to me. Log in to Reply pferrando May 7, 2014 I don’t know anything about “Taggart” either, but I am glad that the recast wasn’t a former GH’r. This grab and switch between shows is getting bad. How about some other ATWT or GL talent instead? Log in to Reply Camp is not a sustainable model May 7, 2014 @pferrando: I don’t think Monti Sharp (ex-David Grant, GL) would have been be coming over. Too old. But I would not have mind seeing Paul Taylor (ex-Isaac, ATWT). And Lammon Rucker (ex-Marshall) is doing film and primetime now. Though he might come back for 2 to 3 guarantees per week and leading man status. Log in to Reply harlee490 May 7, 2014 [quote=Restless Fan]I don’t care how cute he is. Right now his only connection is to Leslie. Why does JFP insist on building the future of Y&R on everything except the history of it? She’s maddening as a producer. So far Y&R’s track record for creating new, compelling characters under JFP has been bleak. They come in with no real plan and we the audience get to watch them restructure history to make these vapid newbies fit. They don’t write for most of the characters they do have and they keep bringing in more. I don’t think JFP gets why the audience hates her. We watch her stupidity play out daily. We watch how her newbies choke the life out of the vets so they have a leg to stand on. NO MORE NEW CHARACTERS! WRITE FOR THE ONES YOU HAVE! WRITE FROM HISTORY! WHY IS THIS CONCEPT SO HARD FOR JFP’S LITTLE BRAIN TO UNDERSTAND? Why is Leslie getting a husband when you have characters like Noah and Abby in limbo? Characters who have real ties but are being wasted as props to JFP’s bad ideas. On the narrative end, she’s garage sell talent and needs to go away! She’s good at flipping a set, that’s about it.[/quote] Restless, I agree with everything you said but after watching this casting frenzy with MAB…the repeated offender is happening once again, I can’t lay all the blame at the feet of JFP no matter how much I despise her. I think AngMcD\CBS has something to do with the casting problems. AngMcD admitted in an interview before she didn’t have much knowledge of soaps and YR and this could be one of the problems…what EP will say NO to unlimited amount of casting if CBS is picking up tab or at least some of the cost. Log in to Reply harlee490 May 7, 2014 [quote=pferrando]Not familiar with him, so we’ll see.[/quote] Trust he isn’t top of line actor, pretty yes…Fact: he worked at GL at the time when JFP was EP and cast him as the recast of David Grant, the 2nd one and than recast David again…Arghh! Monti Sharpe was an actor winning a outstanding daytime Emmy for his work…now that’s an actor with chops…why not him? |( Log in to Reply harlee490 May 7, 2014 [quote=david46208]@pferrando: I don’t think Monti Sharp (ex-David Grant, GL) would have been be coming over. Too old. But I would not have mind seeing Paul Taylor (ex-Isaac, ATWT). And Lammon Rucker (ex-Marshall) is doing film and primetime now. Though he might come back for 2 to 3 guarantees per week and leading man status.[/quote] What does age have to play into anything…Neil was just as older than Leslie and Monti was superb actor. He could had been an older gentleman as Neil with brains and JFP wouldn’t renew Monti’s contract and cast the god awful TT…UGH Log in to Reply Divatude58 May 7, 2014 @Pferranda, while I don’t want Devon with a dayplayer AGAIN. If they are going to have him stuck with her they might as well show it. LOL Not all Winters have been used. Lily and Neil have but Devon has pretty much been treated like Noah. And I think that Neil gets about as much attention as Michael. Lily probably gets more than all of them put together. I see lots of people wanting the Latin presence. I will take that but if I had to choose, I would choose the Asian Abbots. Log in to Reply RebeccaJ May 8, 2014 @Blue Skies and.. When I first heard it, I honestly thought she was telling Neil that so she could leave town and he wouldn’t try to change her mind and that it was all just a lie. Especially since she told Leslie one day that she had about seven views to her profile then a couple DAYS later, she’s handing Neil this “quickie marriage” story. But the more they persist with it, I’m guessing they have someone lined up to play the husband and yeah, brainwashing was the only way i could figure she’ marry that quickly! some of those cult folks can be quite charismatic. Log in to Reply pferrando May 8, 2014 Leslie’s too smart to be brainwashed, I think. But Ian may be holding something over her head. And it actually could be she’s protecting Neil from something. I like this. Although the same thing could have been accomplished with having her marry an aged Nate. That’s the issue when you have NO ONE left at the top who knows the history. They need to source Janice Esser for more than just writing script. Log in to Reply harlee490 May 9, 2014 Yes, we need Nate Jr. but I agree I mention many posts ago about Ian having something to do with the situation. At first I thought maybe Leslie married him but maybe “Barton” works as a disciple for Ian in the gawd awful cult story. Log in to Reply Leave a Reply Cancel Reply You must be logged in to post a comment.