The Great Sam Vs. Liz Debate!

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Okay guys and gals you know how we do this! Its time to bring one of the most popular fights to the new forums! YES The GREAT Sam Vs. LIZ Debate!

So Liarson fans beware because as bugs bunny would say, "Its Lizard hunting season!"

LOL Wow, start off the topic with fighting words! LOL you Liz fans know i am kidding.

In all honesty for those of you who don't know me, I am kinda on the fence with both, I think that BOTH characters have their fair sets of problems, both characters have been ruined at one point in time or another, so I am probably not going to be the most pasionate person here, but I will come in and have some fun as a newbie to this war of the ages.

So who's going to get this thing started?

Here are some simple starter questions:

Liz or Sam!
Why?

LnL2, Liason, JaSam, LuSam, Other ?


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It's so weird to see the Sam

It's so weird to see the Sam vs. Liz debate thread empty, lol!! Remember when it was like 200 pages long??

I actually don't think I have much to say anymore about Sam vs. Liz, especially since they're pretty much out of each other's orbits now. Sam's my girl, always will be and I think it's pretty safe to say I'm always going to hate Liz.

I loooove that Sam is back to her old self and that she and Jason are back together again - as it should be :) 

Liz can have a threesome with Lucky and Nik in a broom closet for all I care Evil

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You're also going to love

You're also going to love something on one of the two upcoming Top 5 podcasts that might have something to do with Sam. lol

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First off, I love both

First off, I love both actresses.

Having said that, as a character I prefer Sam.  Liz is too holier than thou slut in disguise.  I don't mind sluttiness but at least be honest about it and don't act like your the second coming or something.

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Luke: Uh oh! You're scaring

Luke: Uh oh! You're scaring me, lol!!

troymcclure: Exactly!! Every character is flawed and does bad things - I'm okay with that. But Liz has always acted like her sh*t don't stink and that drives me nuts! I hate that she thinks she's better than everyone else and has a very short memory when it comes to her own bad deeds. grrrr!

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YIKES I am so sad our

YIKES I am so sad our masterpiece of a thread is gone

And luke you are scaring me too

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I don't even watch GH and I'm

I don't even watch GH and I'm looking forward to reading this thread!

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EET and Daisy, listen to the

EET and Daisy, listen to the Top 5 Things We're Thankful For ep....Jillian makes a revelation that I think you'll both enjoy.

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Luke: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!

Luke: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!! Is Jillian a secret Sam or JaSam fan???? EEEEEEE!! Okay, I gotta listen to the show. I'm all excited now! lol

Mike: This thread should be entertaining - the old one was Insane, lol!

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You'll have to listen to the

You'll have to listen to the episode to find out!

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Ooooh I'm excitied to listen

Ooooh I'm excitied to listen to the podcast! 

And yes it is sad that the topic isn't over 500 pages long Sad

Okay talk about Sam/Liz...

I really like the way they have been interacting lately, but I really want them to get back to cat fighting and being snarky.

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Jillian's a JaSam

Jillian's a JaSam fan!! WooHoo!!! And she called Liz a skank!! WooHoo!! I love it!! LOL!! Thanks for making sure we'd hear it on the podcast Luke!! You guys made my Thanksgiving, lol!!

JaSam Forever!!!

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 I wish we could get away

 I wish we could get away from calling all the women sluts. The men have been with just as many women, but when it comes to Liz and Sam the name calling is borderline --if not entirely--sexist. I like both actresses/characters, but yes I am still a liason fan.

If you want to go after liz, what do you think of Sam today? The writers now have her legitimizing Jason's violence. I don't think the writers are doing these two women any favours right now. If I have to choose between Liz being with Lucky's brother, and Sam encouraging Jason to trust his instincts as a killer, the decision will be easy.

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Lizard is too busy snarking

Lizard is too busy snarking out the rest of PC to snark at SuperSleuthSam. Give her time, she will get back to it soon enough - but there is only so much her brow can take LOL.

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Booo, it is no fun if there

Booo, it is no fun if there aren't any Liz fans. 
(How in the world did I miss that DC had a forum?  I've been on this site for a year.)

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troymcclure wrote:Booo, it is

troymcclure wrote:
Booo, it is no fun if there aren't any Liz fans. 
(How in the world did I miss that DC had a forum?  I've been on this site for a year.)

You haven't missed anything. The forum launched yesterday.

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I am a Liz fan! I do have

I am a Liz fan! I do have issues with how their writing her right now, but then I have an issue with how GH is writing all its female characters. As much as like Liason, I am enjoying having Liz out of the mob's orbit. The mob typifies the misogynistic nature of this show.  Any women sucked into its orbit quickly become spineless creatures who simply do what their "men" want.  It is happening again to Sam, she is simply Jason's sidekick, a willing alibi and legitimizer of his violence. They were already making Liz follow a similar route before Liason ended. Since this is a Liz and Sam board, feel free to goad me on my love of all things Liz, but keep in mind what the writers are doing to your Sam. Nothing to be proud of there.

 

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 Wait until Lizard finds out

 Wait until Lizard finds out that Sam and Jason are back togather.... muhahahaha i love that my Jasam are back together.... they are making Lizard to be such a whore... it is like deja view with Lizard... same affair.... same cheating on Lucky(which i don't like this new/old Lucky... I prefer GV)... Just a different guy...this is even worst.. his own brother....

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LIZ fan all the way!!! Liz

LIZ fan all the way!!!

Liz has been my favorite character ever since 1999 when I started to watch GH. I don't know why but I just can't hate Liz, she is the character I always root for. I like her with all the pairings that she had, she just has so much chemistry with all the guys that she had been with! Though, I still want her back with JJ's Lucky. 

Currently, I don't like her situation with Nikolas, but then again, it would be boring for Lucky and Liz to get back together without any conflicts. The outcome of Niz better bring out some good drama and hopefully make Liz not to take Lucky for granted. I really hope Liz and Lucky will fall back in love and rebuild their relationship after this crazy mess. 

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LIZ VS SAM Well to start with

LIZ VS SAM

Well to start with JaSam Forever. However I'm not a a hater of the Naughty Nurse just she frustrates the hell out of me.

Liz is not the end game for Jason because; she cannot handle his job and the violence that surronds it, she does not get along with his "family" Carly and Sonny. She convinced him to walk away from his child. She created a realtionship in her mind based on necessity {she helped him when he was shot or in danger} and a drunk broken heart created a ONS and two years of hell for JaSam fans. She has no honor {look what she is doing to Lucky, again} and no sense of loyalty to the one person who stood by her during the worst moment in her life, has raised her two sons as his own with all the love of the natural parent and provided her a sense of family in his own when all she had was Grams.

Sam was raised in a world of con games, violence, deception and survival. She understands Jason's world and can accept it. She does not try to change who Jason is just tries to support him and back him up when he needs it. She understands Jason's commitment to his "family" and has often put thier needs ahead of her own to her own detriement. She through Jason has learned to respect herself, love herself and try to create a world that is her own, her sisters, PI Work, and even her "Mother".

Jasam 3.0 is based on a new foundation of friendship, respect, honesty, sense of adventure, families and a stronger foundation of love. It can survive Alexis, Carly or even Liason interference. "It will be better then before!" 

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Liz>>>>>Sam The character of

Liz>>>>>Sam
The character of Sam has been regressed because of her relationship with Jason. i don't understand why all of her fans continue to want this pairing. It seems like the last 2 years have been erased just to reunite JSam. It's stupid. Everything going on with Liz is character assasination. They always have it out for my girl.

Side Note: I had NO idea that we had a board on DC!!!!

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megana: Just for the

megana: Just for the record, lots of us have called the men out on being slutty. I've said many times that Sonny is the biggest slut in Port Charles, lol! And I can't tell you how many times I've complained about the way GH (and many other soaps) portray women. I'd say in general ABC treats women (characters, actresses, and female viewers) disrespectfully. I quit watching OLTL mostly because of the Tarty rapemance, and their insistance on pimping psycho rapist Todd as a romantic lead.

I've loved how they've written Sam in the last year or so. She's maintained her independence and her world doesn't just revolve around Jason anymore.  I love that she's a PI & that we see her involved so much with her family.  Yes, now that the Franco story is taking off, Sam's going to be by Jason's side a lot, but as long as they're writing them as equal partners in every way, then I've got no problem with that. And I certainly don't see Sam as being "spineless." What I would love though is for Sam to have a story of her own!!! 

Meanwhile, Liz does have a story of her own and it sucks... She's coming across as a total creep. I'm actually not rooting for anyone in that story (though I feel sorry for Lucky.)

ghalltheway: Nice to see you again!!!

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Wanted to thank Luke for

Wanted to thank Luke for sending the new update about the sites merging on here and so here I am. (waves to all the posters from TVFANONLINE) and what do I find....another post about the infamous Liz and Sam.

For the people who don't know me or remember me I hate Liz, Liz hate puts me in my special place.

Does not matter to me who she is spreading her legs for, or who's floor she is rutting on I hate her and that is putting it mildly.

Wanted to reply  and say I agree with most of your post. First I am not a happy camper that Sam is back with Jason. Yes I love that being with SB gives Kelly more air time (well it doesn't seem to me  but she has been on more this year then last year with Lucky and I am a huge, B I G in fact,  Kelly fan so I am happy for her) But I am still on the fence about JaSam.

The last two years does seem to be erased but  the three years of JaSam got erased, butchered, cut up and dismantled to make room for Liz (and I believe they did this because they did not believe Kelly was staying but that is for another post)

I do not believe they are assasinating Lizs' character but finally showing it  "in plain sight". She was this same way / same type of woman and did this same thing with Jason & Lucky two / three years ago.  "yes jason you are Jakes daddy. yes Jason you can see Jake. No Jason we can't let you be around Jake because Lucky doesn't know, and the same crap over and over to keep Jason hanging on but not around his son and keep Lucky,  the free babysitter, because he is the better parent.  What I got from all of her scenes was "No jason you can't be around Jake because you want to be around him and not me". You can't have Jake without meeeeeeeeeeee

I will have more to say when I get to hating more on Liz but for now she hasn't been making me see red...I could care less about this Lucky and I do like Nik and I have always wondered if I would like Liz with Nik (I did not hate her with Rick well I didn't like her but I could sit thru her scenes with Rick) and I am finding I am doing that with Nik and Liz.

Color me shocked

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Marezi wrote: I do not

Marezi wrote:

I do not believe they are assasinating Lizs' character but finally showing it  "in plain sight". She was this same way / same type of woman and did this same thing with Jason & Lucky two / three years ago.  "yes jason you are Jakes daddy. yes Jason you can see Jake. No Jason we can't let you be around Jake because Lucky doesn't know, and the same crap over and over to keep Jason hanging on but not around his son and keep Lucky,  the free babysitter, because he is the better parent.  What I got from all of her scenes was "No jason you can't be around Jake because you want to be around him and not me". You can't have Jake without meeeeeeeeeeee

Well said Marezi, and just to add, People talk about Liz's character assassination for Jasam (which is SO not true IMO), How about when Sam's character was assassinated two years ago for Liason? Did we forget that little tidbit?
Jillian is a Jasam fan...WHOO!!  Now I know which moderator I love the most Smile
I guess It's obvious that I am NOT a Liz fan so let the battle begin.

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Marezi wrote:Wanted to thank

Marezi wrote:
Wanted to thank Luke for sending the new update about the sites merging on here and so here I am. (waves to all the posters from TVFANONLINE) and what do I find....another post about the infamous Liz and Sam.

You are most welcome Marezi! LONG TIME no talk. I hope you enjoy the new forums!

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I disagree with you

I disagree with you thebest... Sam and Jason know that there are some bad things that have happened while they have been apart.. they both have agreed to not bring it up as it is bad memories... Sure Sam and Jason are sleeping together but they have not come out as a offical couple to the people of Port Charles... They are still in the beging of discovering themselves with eachother... Hell I dont think that Sonny even knows yet... And Lizard doesn't know either...

Sam understands Jason and the way his life is.. She can fit in with him the better then Lizard ever could...Sam can kick some ass and damn do her and Jason make hot steam together... lol....

Look at Lizard right now and look at Sam... Sam is doing way better... Now the shoe is on the other foot for Lizard fans... once our beloved Sam was being written like crap and now Lizard is... Personally I think that they are reusing the same storyline from before except this time with Nikolas...

I love having our Forms back.... Go Sam GO!!!... Go JaSam GO!!!

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Marezi: Nice to "see" you

Marezi: Nice to "see" you again!!!

ghalltheway: was it you that said you miss GV? Me too!! And I agree, JaSam is just at the beginning stages of their reunion. Eventually they'll discuss everything that happened between them but not yet. Right now they just want to be together and I love that :)  The fact that they can get past what they did to each other proves that they love each other unconditionally. They've had their very rough patches, but they always find a way back to each other

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Daisyclover... I have always

Daisyclover... I have always been around... but hated posting on the site.. i prefer the forums... I am so so so so happy that they are back!!

I am enjoying watching Jasam make their way to eachother...

There was the scene between new Lucky and Sam... so saw no more sparks!!! GV and KM had so much heat with Lusam... there is no Lusam no more!

Lucky needs a new love interest.. better yet bring GV BACK!

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I like Liz. I just don't get

I like Liz. I just don't get what the who Liason hype is all about. I don't see it. They bore me to death. They have no chemistry. It's so weird because chemistry most people assume is sexually but when Jasam broke up, those break up scenes and scenes thereafter were so full of intensity and emotion and their chemistry was through the roof. I don't know but I don't see Liz and Jason ever being together again. I mean it's a soap so never say never but Liz just doesn't fit his lifestyle. I don't care, Jake or no Jake they are just two complete opposites.  Sam is his soulmate. She completes him. He needs her as much as she needs him. Sam doesn't judge, she doesn't care what he does, she loves Jason for him and I think that is what's special.

I get Sam made terrible mistakes in the name of Jake but even though it happened, she has learned and grown from them. She was able to move on and find forgiveness in Lucky and eventually in Liz and Jason as well. I think it was nice that they could all find common ground [ Lusam&Liason ] but ultimately Liason fell apart and then in turn Lusam did so Sam found herself back in Jason's circle. And after everything Sam still didn;t forget what she had done to Jake as she was able to pay her dues. It doesn't necessarily erase her past mistakes but she did kind of redeem herself in the eyes of Jason Lucky and Liz.

And after everything Liz is doing now I don't think anyone can judge Sam. Yeah she put kids in danger, but Liz isn't any better if you ask me. She is stringing on Lucky while she knows, she knows that she doesn't love him the way she is falling in love with Nik. Anyway I hope that she just comes clean with Lucky because he doesn't deserve this at all. 

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Well said Copper!

Well said Copper!

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I think I love you Cooper,

I think I love you Cooper, lol! You made some great points. ITA agree with you about JaSam's chemistry not only being sexual. You're right, the break up scenes and everything after that were riveting to watch. Kelly and Steve work really well together no matter what the scene calls for: romance, sexiness, comedy, anger, etc... And that's one of the reasons I was always going to be a JaSam fan, no matter how they broke them up.

As for LikNiz/Lucky - one of the many reasons I can't get into that story is that what Liz and Nik are doing to Lucky is just so cruel. There's no good reason for Liz to be stringing Lucky along at all. And I don't buy that she's doing this for her kids. Total Bull, imo. Her kids are FINE. Lucky loves them and will always be there for them. I'm so tired of her justifying her lying and manipulating by saying it's for her kids. This is all about Liz wanting her cake and eating it too. The comfort and safety of Lucky and the "hot" "passion" of doing the nasty with Nik.

And I still don't understand what the h*ll is going on with Nik. Why is he such a douchebag now??

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I dont know how anyone can

I dont know how anyone can say this storyline is anything but Lizard's S.O.P.

When has she ever really ended one relationship without having another one waiting in the wings.  And when was the last time she went for a guy that was totally free and clear when she started her pursuit?

Sure those are soap staples but we usually see them randomly with a character not as a consistent pattern of behavior.

Sam, Carly Robin, Courtney all had periods where they were uninvolved with someone or separated and all of them have had times of getting with a guy that was completely available. Not are gal Lizzie.

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I like Liz and Sam.  Sam when

I like Liz and Sam.  Sam when she wasn't with Jason. I loved her going out for herself trying to find out about the drugs getting into the hospital.  If the writers would have stuck with that storyline and let Sam solve the crime herself, it would have lead to even more storylines like her going out on her own and finding her father. Or finding out Alexis isn't her mother which lead to an emotional breakdown. Then Sam would pick herself up and search for her parents herself.  Alexis grew up isolated in Greece, it wouldn't be hard to track down who her friends were.  Sam is also a con artist, she could con her way into anything. Surely she could con her way into finding out about Alexis life as a teen.

Anyhoo, love Liz and Nik.  Since Liz and Sam aren't fighing over Jason, it doesn't fan the flames of Liz v Sam.

 

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EricasEvilTwin wrote:I dont

EricasEvilTwin wrote:
I dont know how anyone can say this storyline is anything but Lizard's S.O.P.

When has she ever really ended one relationship without having another one waiting in the wings.  And when was the last time she went for a guy that was totally free and clear when she started her pursuit?

Sure those are soap staples but we usually see them randomly with a character not as a consistent pattern of behavior.

Sam, Carly Robin, Courtney all had periods where they were uninvolved with someone or separated and all of them have had times of getting with a guy that was completely available. Not are gal Lizzie.

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After Liz came back with Cam, she was on her own for a year.  Her and Lucky didn't get together until late 2005 during that whole storyline about Connor being obesessed with Emily and raping her and Helena trying to kill her. That's when Lucky first kissed her. Then after he was shot, that's when their relationship started. Lucky was single.

Also after her and Lucky broke up when JY was playing him (when she walked in on him and Sarah) she was by herself that whole time. Even when Jason came back, they weren't a couple. It wasn't until August of that year they declared they wanted to be together. Jason was single.

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Elizabeth has also been alone

Elizabeth has also been alone since the hospital fire.  She and Nikolas didn't start getting together until a few months ago.  She and Lucky were just friends and coparenting.  She didn't even date.

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Hold the phone...Lizard had

Hold the phone...Lizard had no idea about Sic  - she only knew Jason was in love with Sam, Sam was in love with Jason and they were only apart because of Alexis. She knew all of that because Jason told her.  She has said now I believe twice that she had a purpose in mind when she climbed those stairs because she didnt care who Jason loved, who loved him or what ramifications a ONS would have on Jason's life.  Its funny Jason was "single" and yet MANY Lizard fans claim that Sam cheated on him with Ric.  Her SOP is to go for guys that want someone else. Jason wanted Sam.

And she went right from breaking up at the courthouse to kissing Lucky as they escaped during the toxic balls story. The weeks between she was doing her level best to convince Lucky to doubt his feelings for Sam.  So there was Lucky - with someone - when Lizard set her cap on him, yet what did she do once she got him and promised him that she would take it slow?  She bedded his brother. No down time from  Lucky to Jason to Lucky to Nik.

I dont remember 2005 but didnt Lizard sleep with ZANDER not long after the JY marriage that wasnt?? Didnt care he was her BFF's first lover or that he still loved that BFF.   And if I am not mistaken she bounced back and forth between the idea of Jason and Zander until Jason fell for courtney and Ric came along and then she was right in that - so desperate to move on with Ric that she beaned Zander in the head with a pipe and left him to die.

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Okay heres the character bio

Okay heres the character bio from Soapcentral...

http://www.soapcentral.com/gh/whoswho/elizabeth.php

according to soap central. She broke it off with ric and then left the canvas. She came back and

"reconnected with Lucky Spencer. They soon fell in love but all was not bliss"

So thats not EET saying it was soon, thats the bio guy at Soapcentral. I guess its fair to say that while RH was on maternity leave and Lizard was off canvas having Cam, she was single and not chasing someone that was in love with someone else.

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 Yeaaaaa Liz VS Sam

 Yeaaaaa Liz VS Sam .......
Sam all the way .....
Not because of Jason because I really love her, even when I was LIASON fan , I always loved her ...
I can't believe I was Liason fan .........
Liason were not good for anyone not for Jason and not for Liz It was a big mistake ............

Sam has grown she learned from her mistakes ,and she payed for them she took responsibility for her action.............
and that is something I can't say about Liz , I hate that everyone say that she is angel and can do no wrong .
Like now Luke and Nick fought on her with Nick , why could Luke be mad at Liz ! she is the one who hurts his son this is not Nick's fault ..
The same goes with Jason , she is like saying being with Jason was wrong... and more it looks like it is Jason's fault than her ..............
In my mind and opinion she is keeping Jake from Jason
she is the first who told him he can;t be near HIS SON..
Now I hate that people say it was because of safety NOT TRUE ...
It was because she wanted Lucky and Jason with her ..
She said when she was in elevator in MC that she knows Jason will protect his son , and day later she said NO......
Liz manipulate Jason to do that, she used his good heart to do that ...
So I hate her...............

Sam is not missing in Jason anymore ..
As I see their scenes thinking if their first round IT IS SO MUCH DIFFERENT ......
Jason tells her all about his job , his feelings , his concerns about everything ... and that was not before....
Before Sam was his little lady the one he needs to protect not tell her all keep wall between them so she will not know all....
This is not true this time, Jason believes her completely , there isn't the feeling of Jason and the weak Sam that Jason is protecting her , they work as partners ...
When they were searching after Claudia's evidence, Jason and Sam work together........
When Jason lost it Sam was there to keep him sane.....
When they both were searching after Carly and Claudia , Jason told her take care of Carly , because he knows she can do that , he wasn't scared of her safety!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he trusted her for helping his best friend ............
Now about this week of the talk about Jason's job , Again he trusted her and told her everything something he didn't do the first time , and she knew that ..
He told her she is the only one he can be real with her and that is big....
Sam doesn't lose her in to Jason , she is his best friend help him and care about him like a real couple needs..
She is still care for her family and her job.. ... 

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something else people say

something else people say about Lusam that were good ..
They were good for short time , they both helped each other with the bad breakup but there wasn't the real bond ....
In more ways Lucky didn't trust Sam that much to take care of her self he didn't believe her when Jerry set her up Jason did....
and when she wanted to be PI he didn't want her to do that ......

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Yay Liz VS Sam......Obviously

Yay Liz VS Sam......Obviously I'm Sam all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually don't have too many problems with Liz.....The only thing I really don't like is her sanctimonious attitude....
That being said...I long for the days of the great Sam and Liz arguments.....The scene would always open with Liz on the phone at GH leaving a message for Jason or doing something for her job and the camera would pan ever so slowly to see Sam standing there, and you knew it was on!!!!!! RH and KeMo had great chemistry and there fights were always entertaining....Those sorry excuses for fights that Liz has with Rebecca are NOTHING compared to Sam vs Liz.....I really do miss those....lol......

Does anyone think a Lusam relationship would work with JJ in the role.....I kinda want them to try......although not now since I'm still on my Jasam high....lol.....

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Wow, I haven't been on here

Wow, I haven't been on here in ages!  And I actually haven't really watched GH much in ages.  But, it's so good to log back on and see the same debate is still going!  Will it ever end???  LOL! 

Hello to old my ol' pals on here!!!! 

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SALEM!!!!  I am so excited to

SALEM!!!!  I am so excited to see some absent folks coming back.  Even though we were on different "Teams" (LOL) I always enjoyed debating the epis with you and reading you thoughts.  Hope all is well with you.  Did you see Marezi also came back too?

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OMG!! Love seeing the old

OMG!! Love seeing the old gang back!!! Smile

I still haven't caught up with GH yet, but I can't wait to see the Davis-Cassadine women and Robin trying to set up Alexis and Mac. And I'm curious about all this Maxie/Franco stuff.

So what about the Webber clan? Anyone have any thoughts on Liz's bro Steven Lars coming back?

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I really really hope that

I really really hope that Alexis and Stephan get together and really show what a real Cougar romance is all about.  I hope SR still got the acting chops. Both he and Nancy would be great together.  I still hate that he's going to be Chief and take Monica's job. But his grandfather did start the hospital.
 
Okay, I would LOVE to see LuSam get thrown together again with JJ in the role.  Other than GV and KeMo looking very sexy together, GV didn't have that Spencer Swagger that Lucky has.  Lucky was only like 11 years old when he went home to find that his parents had to go on the run and by himself he made his way to PC, at 11!  That's the Lucky Sam should get with and it seems that GH (now that their muse is back) is writing JJ as that Lucky.  So Lucky grew up a con artist and so did Sam. They both moved around from place to place with conartist dads.  They are both quick on their feet.  TIIC need to play up on that. If Lucky does leave the force then he should get in on that PI business with Sam. If GH is smart enough to bring on Devane from AMC, all three could work the PI busines together or have a great love triangle.

  The midvid below is for Liz haters enjoyment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Zb9hh8aYY 

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Saleem2005... good to have

Saleem2005... good to have you backk.... you were a big liz supported... Nice to have you back even though I am a Sam fan...

I do not by any means want the new Lucky and Sam to try and be a Lusam... The new/Old lucky is not man enought to be with my sam... He sounds like he is a girl... and when they shared a scene a few weeks back.... there was nothing there... there was like nothing had ever happened with them and that the hot pick-you-up-and-press-you-against-the-wall-hello-kiss... never ever happened... which was soooooo hot!!!

Like i said before... Lucky needs a new love interest.

Let JASAM be happy in the moment.. us Jasam fans need them back!

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 JaSam are already here I

 JaSam are already here I don't think they will broke them anytime soon....
I don't want LuSam round 2 with JJ it will not work...
Sam best guy is Jason they are good together and they both make each other hotter 

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Who cares about whether

Who cares about whether Jonathan and Kelly have chemistry. GH has no intention of putting Lucky and Sam back together so why does it matter what he looks like in scenes with her. If Amber came back to play Emily I don't think she and Tyler would have the same chemistry he had with Natalia and if Sonny and Emily together looked bad when Natalia was in the role imagine Amber and Maurice in scenes together. 

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I still think Lucky will be

I still think Lucky will be with Maxie. We know they dont intend to leave her with Spinelli.  Personally I would rather see her with Johnny but I could live with a lucky maxie pairing.  I think it would be interesting to see what Lizard would do if her two fall back guys were both in love with women that arent particularly fond of Lizard - I think Sam tolerates her but Maxie is downright hostile towards her.  Could be interesting.

And yes, I think SLW is for alexis, but I they are going to break up CarJax for awhile I would love to see what kind of chem LWhas with SR.

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Well BigDede brought up a

Well BigDede brought up a possible LuSam repairing, so I think it's fair to wonder if JJ's Lucky and Sam would have the same kind of chemistry. Personally, I can't picture them together, but I think Kelly's had chemistry with all the guys she's been paired with (even if I didn't like the pairings - Sam/Sonny, for instance), so who knows. And BigDede, I was SO excited about LuSam because of all the reason you mentioned - I thought it would be chance for Lucky to get his b*lls back and this was a Spencer/Cassadine pairing - how awesome is that?? I thought Lucky and Sam's similarities, as well as what made them different, would make for some great stories, and I felt that ultimately they would bring out the best in each other. And Oh how I wanted a LuSam miracle baby..and a Jason/Sam/Lucky triangle!!! But obviously TPTB didn't want to go there :(  I think one of the reasons I'm having trouble adapting to JJ's Lucky this time around is because he's not the "LuSam Lucky" if you know what I mean.

So they really are having a Steven Lars/Alexis romance? I wish it would at least be a triangle with Mac.  I used to watch Scott R on Y&R. He was good. Not a great actor, but not bad. He's good looking and likeable, so he'll be a good addition to the cast.
 
As far as JJ's Lucky - I still feel that they haven't decided who they're going to pair him with. I'm assuming they're going to test the waters a bit. We still have the Cassadine vs. Spencer story to get through, so I'm assuming the Lucky/Liz/Nik triangle is going to continue through that...

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I would like to see Lucky and

I would like to see Lucky and Maxie because I remember when Maxie was a teen and had a crush on Lucky. She (when Robin played Maxie) was babysitting (Lulu I think) and she was on the phone and the upstairs garage or attic caught on fire but right around that time she started really crushing on Lucky. and then when they brought KS on as Maxie and she and Lucky fell in together I just like them as a couple and it did not / does not matter who played the characters.
I think there could be a lot of good stories. Maxie messing with Liz is my top priority and if they got together Maxie could just dig in with snarky comments to Liz which I just love.

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In some ways I think the

In some ways I think the Lizard fans should be for that.  She def. is one of those characters that needs a nemisis or she is just blah and its boring to keep her ping ponging back and forth between the same two guys. If maxie and Sam edge her out, that means TPTB are finally wanting to think of something to with her thats a bit different.

I also think I could have been okay with IckNiz if they werent having their relationship behind lucky's back. Had they pulled the plug on the bland pairing of Liesalot and Jason back when Emily died and built up those two when Lucky was happily with Sam things would have been IMHO so much better.  THen when Embecca came back we could have had Nik torn between a fake version of his soul mate and his new found love.  That would have opened the door for Lucky to be supportive during the Jake crisis and having Lizard realize there were still feelings there.  The way tptb wrote, its just Lizard hoing around again.  Meanwhile Sam and Jason are forced to go on the run and their feelings come back and while she is torn, she comes back to lucky close with Lizard. it would have given us far more angst that way all the way around IMHO. Plus it would have forced Jason to have to fight for the love of his life.