Y&R: Murder Mystery Suspects (spoiler)

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Diane was just murdered on today's Canadian episode of Y&R.

Suspects:
Victor
Nikki
Victoria
Nicholas
Adam
Abby
Ashley
Tucker
Jack
Phyllis

More realistic (off-screen) candidates:
Patty Williams
Skye Lockhart
Kyle Abbott
Andy Richards (anything is possible---it would be a "nod to history")


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I can't wait to see it. I

I can't wait to see it. I keep checking YouTube.

I think it's going to end up being someone completely random like Patty or Skye. I can't see any well-known character SERIOUSLY killing her. They spent the past week trying TOO hard to "set up all the suspects." A lot of the foreshadowing that was done seemed unnatural and forced.

But I can do my happy dance now: Diane is gone!!! Laughing out loud

Now if someone could get rid of SyPhyllis, I would be even happier!!!

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I haven't seen the episode so

I haven't seen the episode so I only comment hypothetically but it would be interesting for her to have been accidently killed by her son. Kyle overhearing the lies she's been telling actually thinks that she's gonna move him away from his father.

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Not Kyle, possibly Patty or

Not Kyle, possibly Patty or Skye, more disposable as characters.
I really think that Skye will return just to save Sharon from prison though, not to murder Dianne. Could be crazy Sheila (lol, not really).

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My guess is Avery. She could

My guess is Avery. She could be Matt Clark's sister and I bet Diane will have the memory disk on her. She probably killed Diane over the memory disk that would set Sharon free.

My top three candidates for who killed Diane: Skye, Patty, or Avery.

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AlistairCrane wrote:Diane was

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Diane was just murdered on today's Canadian episode of Y&R.

1. I've always wondered why they are a day ahead in Canada, Does anyone know?
2. How was she murdered? On screen do you see it?(not that it matters to MAB. We all know she's really not dead)
3. Thanks

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1. I believe Y&R airs a day

1. I believe Y&R airs a day ahead so Canadians will watch it on the Canadian network and not the CBS broadcast. Don't quote me on that, though.

2. Diane's murder is not shown. The last scene is Diane's lifeless body floating in the creek under the bridge (yep, that damn bridge again!). Prior to that, we see all the suspects seemingly getting back from doing...something...all looking highly suspicious and shaken up. Also, there is this weird pretentious thing they've done where pillows in Diane's room have phrases sewn on them that correspond with the suspects.

3. You're welcome.

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Kyle could kill Diane and get

Kyle could kill Diane and get away with it because he's a minor. It would be fitting (and coming full circle) for Patty to kill Diane since Diane's the one who caused Patty's descent into madness.

I'd love for Phyllis to have killed Diane and go to jail and leave the show, but that will never happen.

I like how they are trying to make Nikki look like a suspect by having disappeared from rehab even though she hasn't appeared in almost two months.

I'll rule out Avery because she's a new contract character and there's been no inkling of her having anything to do with Diane.

Out of all the suspects, Victoria seems the weakest and least likely. That being said, I don't think any of the ten main suspects did it. Skye and Patty are easy scapegoats, but Kyle would be the most interesting, especially if he returns as a slightly older teen all disturbed and stuff from killing his mom.

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God, the shots of those

God, the shots of those pillows were weird, not to mention stupid. Another example of Hackarena Bell taking herself too seriously and taking large swigs of her mind-numbing Kool-Aid. But that last shot of Diane in the pool was VERY cryptic and very creepy!!! I will give them props for that. They gave me goosebumps.

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Quote:I'll rule out Avery

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I'll rule out Avery because she's a new contract character and there's been no inkling of her having anything to do with Diane.

That's even more suspect. She comes to town the the same time Diane dies. Plus, it will make her expendable, and that's the type of character who murders people. It won't be anyone interesting. Plus, they reminded us of Matt Clark not to long ago.

sPhyllis is my girl and kicks azz. Amelia Henuious sucks. She's lifeless unless BM is her prop. On today's Y&R, it showed why Villy is such a one-sided relationship. And who would buy lame azz Victoria as a suspect? There is no reason why she is in this storyline. What, did Diane choke on AH's hair?

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LOL Victoria has an octopus

LOL Victoria has an octopus on her head and its tentacles pulled Diane into the water!

Alstonboy, totally agree about the pillows. It's like the opera music when Cane died. GMAFB!

I don't think Avery is related to Matt Clark. They reminded us of Matt but Sharon didn't mention his last name--it was only mentioned briefly in a flashback by Nikki. I don't think there is a connection. And I'm still convinced she'll have nothing to do with this storyline. If anything, she's going to turn out to be Sharon's long-lost sister.

A bitter Andy Richards as Diane's killer makes more sense.

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What about Deacon as the

What about Deacon as the murderer? He would be expendable, possibly.

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HI can someone tell me who

HI can someone tell me who Matt Clark is. the name sounds familiar but I can't remmeber him on the show. . And I agree it would make for an interesting turn if Kyle accidently killed her as he never left GC and saw his mothers actions and confronted her and he pushed her and she hit her head.

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Matt Clark was part of Nick

Matt Clark was part of Nick and Sharon's high school crew. He raped Sharon and was later shot. Nick was blamed for the shooting but it turned out to be their friend Amy. Later, Matt Clark returned with plastic surgery and a new identity to put the screws to Nick and Sharon. For reasons I can't quite recall, Matt ended up in the hospital on life support. When Nick came to his hospital bed, Matt ripped out his ventilator, put it in Nick's hand, and died. Nick was blamed for his death. This character profile goes into more detail: http://soapcentral.com/yr/whoswho/matt.php

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For fans of the previous

For fans of the previous Diane, Susan Walters has turned up on Teen Wolf as the mother to one of the main kids. Her husband Linden Ashby also appears as the father to another one of the main kids. This series films in Georgia just like The Vampire Diaries, where Susan again plays the mother to one of the main kids.

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I don't quite understand why

I don't quite understand why Skye would be a suspect in Diane'e murder. First, we don't even know Skye is alive (I know, don't laugh). Second, why would she kill Diane? Skye may have been a schemer, but she tends to do so when there's something in it for her. I see no gain for Skye in killing Diane. Plus I just don't get "killer" from Skye.

I think Avery Clark makes even less sense. Matt had no beef with Diane (I don't even think he knew her), and Diane does not have the Sharon memory card. I don't even think Diane knew Adam had it. Plus, even if she did, how would Matt's little sister (if that's who she even is) have a clue Diane had it or even knew about it?

Kyle could be a very interesting possibility. It would be even better than when a young Rick Forrester shot Grant on B&B. But a lot more creepy. The kid who plays Smyle already creeps me out because he comes off as a little too happy, like he's on the verge of becoming a murderous psychopath under all that Smiley. If it were Kyle, would Jack throw himself under the bus for his kid (like Ridge did for Rick on B&B).

My money is on Patty!

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If pattys the killer then I

If pattys the killer then I guess thats who Adam was probably talking to on the phone the other day. It makes since considering he used her as his puppet when she was in town. I thought this was going to be a faked death, kind of like when Skye was "murdered" and the only thing found was her blood in the hotel room. Now that her body has been found Im hoping there wont be a resurrection by an identical twin.

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Just a thought, everyone that

Just a thought, everyone that was summoned to the bridge gave her a piece of their mind regarding her past misbehaviors and as they are doing that they surround her to the where she slips off the bank of the creek and she hits her head and dies. That's why they are all edgy when they get back. Thus they are all responsible for her accident but no one is guilty, so to speak. A little like "The Orient Express".
I know it's out there but the plots sometimes are out there.

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"A lot of the foreshadowing

"A lot of the foreshadowing that was done seemed unnatural and forced."

EVERYTHING on this damned show is unnatural and forced. It is a huge pile of dung that smells worse every day.

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Hi there i can answer that

Hi there i can answer that question for you about being a day ahead in Canada. When you celebrate your Thanksgiving in November you may get a special Thanksgiving episode , we just have the regular episode , Christmas and New years would be the only time that it would not run an episode should it land on a week day , even during the march madness you may get pre empted on the thursday or the friday , we dont . Hope this helps.

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Scout-- I agree that Y&R has

Scout--

I agree that Y&R has a lot of DUNG to sift through, but I personally enjoyed Monday's episode more than I have enjoyed an episode on Y&R in......GOD knows how long. I simply wish every episode could be that good!!

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As for the off-screen

As for the off-screen possible suspects, I think we can easily take Kyle off of there. He loves his Mother too much to do that to her. Andy Richards?! Heck no.

I'm placing my money on Skye or Patty.

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Restless Vixen wrote:I don't

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I don't quite understand why Skye would be a suspect in Diane'e murder. First, we don't even know Skye is alive (I know, don't laugh). Second, why would she kill Diane? Skye may have been a schemer, but she tends to do so when there's something in it for her. I see no gain for Skye in killing Diane. Plus I just don't get "killer" from Skye.

Skye could kill Diane on orders from Adam, especially if she owes him one. And even though we don't know Skye is alive, we "know" she's alive because that's how Sharon will be saved. Since Skye also probably killed Richard Hightower, I wouldn't put it past her to kill again.

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Restless Vixen wrote: Kyle

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Kyle could be a very interesting possibility. It would be even better than when a young Rick Forrester shot Grant on B&B. But a lot more creepy. The kid who plays Smyle already creeps me out because he comes off as a little too happy, like he's on the verge of becoming a murderous psychopath under all that Smiley. If it were Kyle, would Jack throw himself under the bus for his kid (like Ridge did for Rick on B&B).

Agreed. But Jack wouldn't need to save Kyle--Kyle is only about 11 (even though he should be the same age as Abby, but whatever), so obviously he wouldn't go to jail if he killed Diane.

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bnt83 wrote:If pattys the

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If pattys the killer then I guess thats who Adam was probably talking to on the phone the other day. It makes since considering he used her as his puppet when she was in town. I thought this was going to be a faked death, kind of like when Skye was "murdered" and the only thing found was her blood in the hotel room. Now that her body has been found Im hoping there wont be a resurrection by an identical twin.

I don't know, Adam was talking too sensibly to the person on the phone for her to be Patty. He always talked down to her. I think it was Skye since Adam was fuming over Sharon when he called her (and Patty has nothing to do with Sharon).

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I am now putting all my eggs

I am now putting all my eggs in a basket and saying it was kyle. changing the subject. have they cast Paul's son yet?

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I'm thinking maybe it was

I'm thinking maybe it was Kyle too. After watching Jack talk to Kyle on the phone, I don't think Kyle ever mentioned where he was in Switzerland or wherever. It might be Skye though too. I could see that happening since Adam called up someone to set a plan in motion. It's all very confusing and annoying.

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They have not announced who

They have not announced who will play Paul's son. I am not excited about his return. The actor will probably have the talents of OLTL's Jack. They need to send the Williams children a packin' and get Paul a new squeeze.

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Dyllan wrote:They need to

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They need to send the Williams children a packin' and get Paul a new squeeze.

Paul has a girlfriend and her name is Nina. They are a great couple and the best couple on this silly show.

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I'm thinking Diane will

I'm thinking Diane will actually stay dead, but that's a shame because I don't like the idea of Maura West taking Alex Donnelly's character with her. Oh well---even bringing back the original Diane wouldn't undo all the damage the writers did to her this time around. I don't think anyone can salvage this character now.

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Paul and Nina suck donkey

Paul and Nina suck donkey balls as a couple. Split them up and pair them with different people. Paul would be great with Ashley or Brooke from B&B. Nina can go with Tucker or Jack. They are a dud and one of the worst couples on Y&R, IMO.

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You're despicable. Paul and

You're despicable. Paul and Nina have chemistry and history and are cute together. You must really hate Nina to wish her on a jackass like Tucker or Jack. Anyway, stop derailing this thread. It's about Diane and her murder.

Kyle and Jack on the phone before Diane's murder reminds me of John being on the phone with Marlena right before Jack's murder on Days. Back then, that phone call set off a red flag and I ended up being right. Lightning strikes twice??

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^LMAO, I just have taste in

^LMAO, I just have taste in couples. Nina and Patch would be hot. Nina McCall! Cute is codeword for boring.

Why are we even getting into motive? When has Y&R ever develop a decent motive. WTH did David Chow kill Ji-Min? I'm sure they will make some lame ass reason. Speaking of Skye, whose body was buried under the stables? I thought Chow chopped her up?

Kyle would be cool, but I doubt the writers would go there because it would make Kyle look like the kid from Orphan (I might reconsider my opinion). It would damage his character. My money is Avery. She's expendable and motive means squat in soap world.

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Tucker is up there with

Tucker is up there with Victor and Adam as one of the most despicable men on this show. That's why he's a suspect in Diane's murder. Pairing him with Nina would be sickening. And Stephen Nichols' performance is atrocious---I still miss William Russ! Plus, it would make for a much better story if Tucker were Nina's father---God knows he's old enough!

Cute does not equal boring. Cute is what makes people fall in love with couples in the first place. I like to see my favourite couples together and happy, not torn apart and miserable. Nina and Paul have something real, and that's rare on soaps, especially Y&R. Look at all their stupid recent couples: Daniel/Abby, Billy/Victoria, Colin/Jill---all duds! You have poor taste in couples, and I bet you don't even root for true love soulmate supercouples.

Again, you must really hate Nina to wish her on Tucker or Jack. Ugh!

I don't think it matters whose body was buried under the stable. Obviously it was someone Skye murdered to fake her death.

Kyle could have killed Diane or without malicious intent. He wouldn't suddenly become a serial killer.

Avery isn't expendable (yet). She is a new contract character which means she's going to be around for a while. A recurring character like Leslie, however, is definitely expendable.

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How's Tucker evil? Because

How's Tucker evil? Because he slept with Diane? That may be gross, but not despicable. How about Nina and Kevin? Nina could be a cougar and wear leopard print tops like Phyllis back in the day. The cougar and the chipmunk. BTW, Stephen Nichols is a great actor.

No way in hell is Leslie the killer. A black person on this show cannot have a personality or edge to them. They are all do-gooders.

I don't think Y&R has the balls to have a child killer unless they were being abused. It would have to be an accident and that did not look like an accident.

Does anyone know if SH is coming back as Patty? MAB said she wanted SH to come back in the role of Patty, so I doubt they would recast the role.

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Why do you hate Nina so much?

Why do you hate Nina so much? Seriously. Can you answer that question?

Tucker's not evil but he sure is despicable. I don't like that kind of man. I hate how he calls Ashley "darlin'". I hate his attitude. Stephen Nichols is a great actor in the role of Patch Johnson and that's it.

I only used Leslie as an example of an expendable character. DA Spencer Walsh is also expendable. Rafe is expendable. If Avery were expendable, she'd be recurring as well.

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I can't wait to see this on

I can't wait to see this on Monday and then I can formulate a better hypothesis about the murder.

The reason I say that it might be Kyle is because it could make sense that her own son killed her for having his life screwed up. If MAB's writes it right it could be explosive. You could have all the suspects having contact with her. It could be a big who done it You would have Jack covering for Kyle, his son, or even Abby or Ashley. You'd have Ashley covering for Abby and for Tucker. Tucker thinking that Ashley or Abby did it, covering for them.

Victor covering for Nikki, himself, Nick, Victoria and even Kyle. He did bond with the Kyle.

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Quote:Why do you hate Nina so

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Why do you hate Nina so much? Seriously. Can you answer that question?

Because of her dry lips.

Who said I hated her? I think you hate her, if you want her in that static boring azz relationship with Paul. Maybe Nina's the killer? AC, you so need a twitter account. It would be epic.

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You could have all the suspects having contact with her. It could be a big who done it You would have Jack covering for Kyle, his son, or even Abby or Ashley. You'd have Ashley covering for Abby and for Tucker.

Doubt it. While Y&R does love to recycle storylines, they just did this storyline last week. That's too soon even for Y&R standards.

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Dyllan wrote:Who said I hated

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Who said I hated her? I think you hate her, if you want her in that static boring azz relationship with Paul. Maybe Nina's the killer? AC, you so need a twitter account. It would be epic.

If you liked Nina, you wouldn't wish such horrible things on her!

I'd rather see my favourite couples happy, together and on the back burner (like DAYS' Doug and Julie) than apart and on the front burner (like Nikki and Victor).

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shoegal wrote: If MAB's

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If MAB's writes it right it could be explosive.

There's the problem(at least lately, I don't trust her)

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What about Deacon as the murderer? He would be expendable, possibly.

I don't think so. If he were expendable, they wouldn't have bothered showing him onscreen while Nikki's away. He also doesn't have a solid motive for killing Diane and framing someone else (like Victor) for the crime. Deacon seems motivated by money and power (he eagerly took Diane's $100) and getting back on his feet. I don't see how he'd benefit from Diane's death unless someone paid him to do it (which I doubt). Framing Victor would be a fun way to stick it to him but Deacon wouldn't benefit from that. Also, since Deacon is technically a B&B character, I don't think they would step on Brad Bell's toes and destroy one of his creations. There is something sneaky about Deacon and I bet he'll factor into the mystery as a witness.

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Just watched the episode and

Just watched the episode and really enjoyed it. I seriously didnt get the point of those stupid pillows. I found nicks comment to diane hilarious, "do you think Im going help you after you attacked my family". He didnt have any problems sleeping with Phyllis, or hiring her after she attacked his sister in court and took her daughter!I wonder if they will ever reveal who killed diane, or if it will be ignored all together the same way Richard Hightowers death was.

I was not a fan of Diane but I must say Maura West did an excellent job with the material she was presented.

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Maura West has given a pretty

Maura West has given a pretty good performance in the past few days, although still not enough to convince me she's Diane. I gotta wonder if her own bitterness about being screwed over by Y&R seeped into her performance.

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Do you think when they fish

Do you think when they fish Diane out of the water, they will find the memory card too?

Is it a coincidence that she is dead in the water where Adma threw the card?

Then again, how many murders can take place at the Athletic club?

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The more I think about it, I

The more I think about it, I don't think Diane is even dead. I think she gave some corpse plastic surgery and tossed it in the river, framing everyone in town for her "death." Diane will waltz into the Athletic Club in six months with a different face as if nothing ever happened.

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I don't think it matters if

I don't think it matters if they find the memory card. The water damage would render it un-usable. If they do find it, they could trace it to Adam but they wouldn't be able to prove he tampered with evidence.

I think Diane is really, most sincerely dead.

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Otalia, funny you should

Otalia, funny you should mention "fish". Just wait til you see who finds Diane's body!

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AlistairCrane wrote:Maura

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Maura West has given a pretty good performance in the past few days, although still not enough to convince me she's Diane. I gotta wonder if her own bitterness about being screwed over by Y&R seeped into her performance.

Well, when you get reduced to playing a two dollar whore, you probably become pretty bitter. I wasn't really blown away by MW's performance. Don't get me wrong, she did great, but I think it was more the dialogue and all the damn secrets coming out.

Oh, and I agree. The pillows were LAME.

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I'm going to go with just

I'm going to go with just about everyone else and say that I think there are really only 3 suspects, but it is fun that so many people could have done it. IMO it was either Patty, Skye, or Kyle. I didn't watch tomorrow (today's Canadian) episode yet so if she gets shot or they show her get murdered I didn't see that. That would throw my Kyle theory completely out the window.

To me the best case scenario is Patty. I want her back and she should be the one to put an end to Diane anyway, with all of their history.

Skye is probably worst case for me, but it would solve the Sharon in jail problem. I'm not a Sharon fan, but you know that is how she will finally get out. Adam talking on the phone made me nervous that it will be Skye, but I HOPE not.

If its Kyle it will just be some kind of stupid accident where she bumps her head and he runs away.

Btw, Stephen Nichols is a great actor. Not just as Patch. Patch is his iconic role, but I equally loved him as Stefan Cassadine on GH. That character had so many layers, it was crazy. I could watch episodes on end of just him in this role. Such an intriguing character. Of course on his way out, he underwent character assassination, but that's how it happens on GH. It didn't taint his performance or the role at all. He never phones it in. The role of Tucker is slightly boring, but I don't hate it.

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I hated Stephen Nichols as Stefan. It's just so wrong to see him on any soap that's not Days of Our Lives.

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He was fantastic as Stefan.

He was fantastic as Stefan. Had chemistry with everyone. Laura, Bobbie, even his cousin Alexis. The only thing that didn't work was Katherine Bell but they had to give that a try, I suppose. If you're screwed out of the business after only playing a character for 5 years then that is just sad.