Supramom - I'm out of guesses at this point. I can only hope changing Sam's parentage is not one of the twists as that would make me and many others really angry and I'm not sure that is the reaction that Cartini is going for. Sigh...
Jason and Elizabeth arent cousins, Steve and Jason are cousins because their moms are cousins, Steve and Elizabeth are siblings because they share the same dad.
I think that it's a waste that Heather and Liz dont talk about Liz' mom who Heather must absolutely hate. I would love an arc where we finally get to meet her mom and Richard Dean Andersen back as Dr. Jeff Webber, I had a serious crush on that man, though I didnt like MacGuyver. I saw RDA on one of the cable shows I watch, cant remember which, but he's held up very well.
maxsmom - I would love to see Richard Dean Anderson back on GH! I happened to love him on MacGuyver and also on Stargate SG1. Perhaps that's the cable show you're thinking about on the SYFY channel? And he still looks great!
Supramom - I had a light bulb moment. Perhaps the second twist on the baby story is that we learn that Heather did indeed switch the paternity results and the baby is really Jason's after all. So then it would be both Sam and Jason's baby that had been switched/kidnapped.
Yes, the baby is Jason's. RC is simply repeating Jolie 2.0, Brody, Marty and baby Liam story line from OLTL. Natalie took a secret paternity test that showed Brody was the baby Daddy. Sam took a secret paternity test that showed freaky Franco was the baby Daddy. Marty messed with Natalie's paternity test (we actually saw Marty in the lab!) while Heather saw that Sam was going to take a paternity test. John believed Liam was his. Jason thought the baby was his after the first paternity test. John dumped Natalie and baby Liam after finding out that Brody was the father. Sam moved out when Jason couldn't decide if he wanted to raise freaky Franco's baby. Sam was maybe raped in November, but giving birth in June because Tea on OLTL is about to pop after finding out about her baby with Victor Jr. last September. Dr. Lee said Sam had a blood problem with the baby, and we can all smell some baby switch or dead baby shenanigans on the horizon. We all know that Jason collects babies. RC is just writing angst by using John and tossing in Liz for good measure.
The latest from GH Happenings ---
The aftermath of the incident at the Zacchara penthouse reaches far and wide. A shot rings out -who died? And how will this affect Kate, who has no idea that Connie confessed to setting Sonny up for the murder of Starr's family? Also, look for Luke and Tracy to get caught up in this in some hair-raising ways.
Jason continues to struggle with making things work with Sam. Of course, it doesn't help when Sam runs into Jason and Elizabeth in a friendly embrace. The bigger obstacle, of course, is the lingering shadow of Franco. This week, Jason tells the Quartermaines the truth about his secret twin brother. By week's end, Jason learns this nightmare is far from over.
The tensions between the Manning and Corinthos clans continue to weigh heavily on Michael and Starr. Michael makes a big decision about whether to testify against Starr or not. The whole case could rest on his shoulders.
Spinelli tries to convince Matt to come forward when Maxie refuses to implicate him, despite her mother's pleas. But could the harsh realities of prison change her mind?
Kristina Davis returns from college under controversial circumstances.
Sassy, my husband loved SG-1. It was Fairly Legal(just looked it up on IMDB), he was on a few episodes and it was nice to see him but I still thought, "comeback to GH, your daughter needs you":)
Sassy-Thanks for your batch of new "goodies". I'm not sure whether I'm curious or dreading the arrival of the new Kristina...
maxsmom - I loved Stargate SG1 too!!
swanqueen - I think it will be nice to have all the Davis girls back together. And NLG and HP having been spending some time with the new actress in their off time getting to know each other, so hopefully she will feel more comfortable and they will seem more like family on screen.
Hi guys-RDA was one of the main producers and lead actor on SG-1 for the first nine years of that show.He left because he just did not want to act anymore.He never did any personal appearances for SG-1.I think he likes his life off screen now.I really don't think there is any possibility he'll come back to GH.However,I would be first in line to watch if he did.
So how's this Sam v. Liz thing going? LOL
Marbee I agree - I dont think theres a shot in heck of getting RDA back on gh though I would love to see it. I dont want any amc people to come to gh as their original amc characters but i do want VI on gh. They need more people to play with FH and NLG. My first choice for sams dad is robert scorpio and if not I wouldnt mind it being VI maybe as jeff webber - though im not sure hes old enough to play as a contemporary to monica which he should be - or as someone altogether new but tied to a core family.
I think give the drops jason being daddy could be one twist or the babies go missing - and you know they want to give jason the chance to save the day - but when the find them they think the babies are the wrong ones and give teas to sam and sams to tea? I mean there seems to be lots of options for twists here.
I dont mind them teasing sam as not alexis's if the story is good and we get scenes where they decide to remain mother daughter no matter the dna, but in the end if after all the playing around sam is not still alexis's daughter Im going to be really upset. They are IMHO the only family that really is shown as a unit now and the show needs MORE family not less.
Here's the latest from WUBS.net ---
**Michael wants Starr to stay in town
**RUMOR: Someone may have a BUNCH of missing people??
**After Molly spills about Sam's rape to Alexis, the Davis girls stand united!
**Heather has a friend! And it just may be someone with big ties to PC
**McBain is beaten
**Lulu wants to investigate AZ's death
**Sam gives birth during the storm, she has nightmares of Franco
**Complications happen after the birth, Sam believes she sees Jason
**Jason is guilt stricken when he realizes the chain of events he set in motion.
**A baby goes Missing
**Tea is in peril and Todd's the only one that can help her
**I hear Helena may be back for Summer!
**NUKristina was reported to be starting May 21st. That date is now Friday the 25th.
And the latest from GH Happenings ---
Sam's memory of the events surrounding her baby's birth is impeded by hallucinations.
Jason may have to shoulder some of the blame for what occurs.
Starr will have two young men vying for her attention later this summer; one of them will be new to the canvas (not sure how long term he will be).
After a very difficult labor, Sam gives birth to a baby boy. There will be some complications, including excessive blood loss.
Who is "with her" while she labors? Jason is with her when she delivers.
A baby goes missing!
Will Sam have difficulty bonding with her baby?
Lulu will get involved in the aftermath of Anthony Zacharra's death.
Alexis and Sonny visit Kate at Shady Brook.
(Further down the road...) We will learn that Robin has never left Port Charles... and that she is not alone among the undead.
Thank you so much sassysdreams.
They bring in a love interest for Starr??? Is this really necessary? I want to see less of her not more. And I don't want to see her in a love triangle. Why do FV and RC have to throw this girl in our face no matter what? I don't understand that.
I'll be happy if Helena returns. It's about time. I miss Constance Towers.
I hope we will find out at least something about the Big Bad that's out there and holding Robin and some others. That's really a story that has my interest.
If there are really more people involved, they should invest in this story and not only use this to bring back old favorites if the show ends next spring.
Anyone think that the reason Johnny was 'organ trafficking' was to keep Hope, Cole, Robin, etc.. alive in a basement lab under General Hospital?
Can't imagine why else Johnny would be involved in organ trafficking.
Maybe Robin is down there needing a new lung, Jake a new heart, Hope a new liver and Cole a new brain .
[quote]Will Sam have difficulty bonding with her baby?
(Further down the road...) We will learn that Robin has never left Port Charles... and that she is not alone among the undead.[quote]
Sam not bonding w/her child would be a great storyline for Kelly to throw her chops in to.
So, who do we want undead? Georgie? Would be great now that Felicia is back. Jake? For me, absolutely, since now Jason's parentage is out.
Thanks Sassy. Lots to look over in these piles of "goodies"...
Thanks Sassy! These are pretty interesting...I hope if they are brining people back from the dead that Alan, Emily and Jake are included, I use to want Georgie back, but I'd rather they bring back KStorms as Maxie and then have LL come on as Georgie.
Maybe Sam is having difficulty bonding with the baby because it's Tea's and there was switch, who knows? Poor Sam lol she just can't catch a break these days, I'd love for the character to be happy after the trauma she's been through. She's been raped, held at gunpoint my goodness, what's next?
Here's some "spoilers" from another source, Soaptown USA ---
Its that time of the year again and the question is will Tony Geary take his usual 3 month vacation? I am hearing he may not be gone as long due to GH's life span. It is also being said that Geary just may tape way in advance to accommodate the show. I say get it while the going is good Tony who knows what will be next year, maybe a permanent vacation....... Is Tracy and Anthony's marriage a sham? Could be, but makes no difference if Anthony is dead, and that is what I am hearing. Of course it will be a who done it and seeing is not necessarily believing. Several want to kill him. Fantasies can be very real. Tracy will be involved with her own family's drama when the Q's find out that Franco is a Quartermaine!!! Or is he?...... All you Scrubby out there be patient Ron is adding more players to the mix and reworking it into a larger umbrella story, as for Robin, rumor has it that she is under the very noses of the ones she loves and with her is someone else who is believed dead...... TPTB have asked Kristina Wagner to stick around longer. Felicia's stay might be tied into what happens with a hoped for a Frisco return. I was also informed that Felicia is carrying a secret. Seems everyone has secrets on this show..... Kate's DID keeps getting worst and worst especially when a 3rd one comes to light...... Heather has some big big secrets. Ask yourselves can Sam's paternity test be trusted? What about Alan's will that Tracy and Luke altered that originally stated that Alan's shares of ELQ will go to Jason's biological children. One thing to keep in mind when it comes to Heather, the more things change, the more they stay the same..... With Tea and Sam going into labor soon what I am being told is that they both give birth during a storm. Rumor has it one child lives while the other does not and one is switched for the other. Pay attention who is with who during the births and you will realize all is not what it may seem....... Trouble ahead for Alexis, on a personal and professional front, her three daughters each face a crisis. Then her own past rears its head which complicates things even more. Sam "instinctively" trusting in McBain will be explained later by their past "connection."..... I would like to urge you to not put all your faith in short-term spoilers, look at the bigger picture. Ron and Frank are very well known for leaving out the big twists. If you do this then you will understand RC's writing far better..... What if the hospital has secret tunnels just like Windermere?... What if Sam realizes that her baby is not really her baby?..... What if Kate had a baby long ago and forgot about it and Connie knows and is keeping the secret?
Ah, dear me. Sassy, all of these "goodies" and tid-bits get me more befuddled and confused. I've been willing to go along for the ride with RC but when umbrella stories get this tangled, I wonder if he and FV realize that, for some, it's more trouble than it's worth? Call me old fashioned but what ever happened to simple (not meaning dumb), straight forward, heartfelt story telling? It's not that I want anything that's not "complicated". I guess I'm just looking for something that doesn't have me spending half of my time figuring out who switched what and/or who with what and/or who. I can get engaged with a "who done it?" as long as it's intelligently written and has a satisfying conclusion. If it keeps me "in love" with my favorites so much the better. Am I asking for too much? Eh, what do I know? I'm just a ballet teacher. I don't know nothin'...
SwanQueen - I agree. The story "spoilers" are starting to seem very convoluted and I still see nothing but even more violence. No humor, no romance, no couples to root for and no 'love in the afternoon'!!!
Since Cartini took over, NONE of the spoilers/rumors have panned out exactly as presented, and there have been several things to happen on screen that were never even mentioned in the spoilers/rumors.
So I think it's safe to say that under this regime more so than ever, spoilers/rumors should be taken with a great big heaping pile of salt, b/c even the spoilers/rumors with some basis of truth won't play out the way we think they will.
Whether that's a good or bad thing, I don't know, lol.
I am new to the spoilers thread. I've been missing out!
Poor freaking Sam. Even if you hate her character you have to start feeling sorry for her a this point. *If* we are to believe these spoilers, Sam will have another baby die! And they will be killing Jason's second child! If Sam can't bond with her baby because it's not hers, and one baby dies, than her and Jason's baby is the dead one. I don't give a freaking CRAP about Jason, (I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire), but to have Sam go through this all again is just crazy. There is enough drama with the Franco paternity mess without needing to add in giving birth in the woods, blood loss, baby switching, yada yada yada. BLECK! Why not have Sam or Tea stick their babies in a tree while they are at it!
The only thing I am really looking forward to is the people hiding in the tunnels underneath GH. There better be Alan, Emily, Justus, Georgie, Jake and the actress Kristen Storms down there!!! But I have a feeling this will be screwed up somehow too I just wish for the final months of this show we could have some good, honest, soapy drama and love stories going on, and not all of this other nonsense.
Thank you all for the spoilers! I don't know how you get them or what you have to do to get them , haha, but I appreciate it!!
Back from the dead - I could see Emily and maybe a recast stefan. I dont want to see alan or jake because they died in such a believable and witnessed way and are so not tied to any of the characters that could be involved that it makes no sense. I mean how and why would someone take alan? VS. lets say emily who had so many gaps in her death that helena could have been hiding in the tunnels and seized on the opportunity to avenge herself. Plus i could see NL coming back as emily where I dont think SD is strong enough to work full time. Georgie I could probably buy but the story idea would have to be strong - faison took him to punish frisco maybe. I dont remember enough about justus but why would hells or faison take him? Jake - Liz went to his limp body and rode in the ambulance, robin and patrick did the surgery and I believe that he was tested before the surgery for compatibility with joss before the operation "in case" since the organs were so darn rare - did robin and patrick operate on a faux jake and the didnt realize the fake baby (who also matched up with joss) wasnt their bff and neighbors son. I didnt want them to kill jake, but now that they have I dont want him back at all.
Guza left a lot of holes in Jake's death story line. He was probably hoping that Frons would be gone one day, and then he could resurrect Jake.
We saw ToddVictor and Gigi both killed on OLTL last year, and RC still managed to twist the story and have the duo show up alive!
For Brandon's fans who don't read Perkie's Obs...
Brandon has a new interview about his character's changes up at Michael Fairman's site...
Ok ladies. There is A LOT of new stuff to report.
New spoilers and stuff from GH Happenings ---
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Monday, May 28th is a repeat episode from April 18th!
Next... Kristina's Back!
Kristina is home for the summer and she's wise to her parents' ways. NUKristina, Lindsey Morgan, "All she wants from them is the truth, and she doesn't get it. So she's going to pull out her ace and get her vengeance!"
And that "vengeance" she mentioned is not going to be pretty. It holds up a mirror to the craziness of her family in a way that has the potential of exploding in her face! "Kristina is the perfect blend of both of her parents. She is very ethical, like her mother. She's very honest and tells how she feels about things, which I feel comes from her mother, who lays down the law. Then again, she's very much like her father because she is very stubborn and can be kind of a hot head."
Kristina's "family project" will be part humor, part drama and create a new problem for Sonny and Alexis to have to deal with. Can they handle it gracefully if they present a united front? Morgan hints, "Both her parents are very strong, and when they come together... whoa!"
Jason is arrested for Franco's murder?
Jason unleashes his pent up anger on the man who he thinks set him up.
Sam is surprised to learn that Jason went to Elizabeth for help.
Sonny and Jason send John a message.
John McBain faces trouble. Who is following him?
McBain is roughed up by thugs... per Jason? The altercation prevents McBain from reaching his destination in a timely manner.
Sam is trapped. Jason finally comes to his senses, but he's made a choice that could change everything. Will Jason get to her in time?
Ron Carlivati in SID, "Despite Jason and Sam being separated, we're continuing to see the pull they have toward one another. They are constantly on one another's minds. As we've gotten closer to her having the baby, we see moments where he wants to reach out to her! They can never quite connect. As she's getting closer to going into labor, we're building Jason to the point where he's being constantly pushed toward trying to understand. While his primary issue has risen from a fear of being unable to love this child, friends begin pointing out that history proves otherwise. He has a lot of different people reminding him that he has been able to love children that biologically weren't his. Even though this is a different situation with Franco, and its complicated by Sam keeping stuff from him and turning to McBain, bottom line, we're pushing Jason to the point where he thinks, 'Maybe I can love the baby!'"
However, McBain is, "still a thorn in Jason's side. There are some things that happens that he blames John for, which McBain may or may not be responsible for. Jason makes a decision to take this sort of drastic action to get McBain out of the way. Jason decides that he needs to send a pretty powerful message to get McBain to go back to Llanview. As mob enforcer , who knows what he's capable of? But it may just end up complicating matters for not only the trio but the birth of this child! Jason is coming around to realizing that he can be there for Sam. He wants to try to love this baby. But we wonder if the actions he takes will complicate the happily ever after that he now sees as a possibility."
"The audience has watched Sam struggle to have a baby and, sadly, its been complicated by all these other factors. Yes, there's an emotional payoff that everyone can expect. But because of everything that's happening, its going to be very, very complicated. It's not necessarily going to be a conventional birth, and it isn't necessarily going to result in the aftermath you might expect."
And then there is Téa. "We happen to have some very pregnant ladies on the canvas at the same time. That gets complicated by the information that Todd has on Kate that could be used as leverage."
Previews Florencia Lozano,Téa,"is going to a hearing for Starr. She's stressed out, and she's late. And she's also due to give birth! She has her work hat on, but she sort of pushes too hard and goes into labor! She faints and someone finds her unconscious." [Todd Manning, naturally!]
Regarding his character Johnny, being responsible for the deaths of Cole, Hope and Anthony, Brandon Barash confides in SOD that, "It was something of a shock, but as an actor, I was very pleased. It means a lot in terms of where my journey goes as Johnny. It's one of those things that fundamentally changes a human being, and Johnny will never be the same as a result... That's going to be a fun place for Johnny to go, and a fun journey for me to take as an actor. So it's very bittersweet [due to the eventual departure of Bruce Weitz with whom Barash as worked with for the past 5 years]."
Maxie marries Matt! Maxie takes the deal to get out of jail and then reveals in court in that she is Mrs. Matt Hunter and will not testify against her husband.
Spinelli is brokenhearted.
Maxie tells him it is all his fault she married Matt since he could not keep his mouth shut.
Jen Lilley explains in SOD, "Maxie is very clever in the way she outsmarts everybody. She takes the deal [to secure her prison release] but sees another way out... The scenes are a lot of fun. They are very Elle Woods in "Legally Blonde". For Spinelli, its tragic. But Maxie tells him she didn't have a choice."
(And sadly this would seem to mean that Kirsten Storms is not returning any time soon!!!)
Luke and Tracy search for Anthony's dead body and end up in trouble.
Lulu is shocked about Luke and demands answers.
Johnny tries to frame Tracy and Luke.
Luke makes a confession to Lulu.
Laura Wright in SOD, Carly "still cares about Johnny, but it is going to take a lot for him to win back her trust."
Jason asks for forgiveness.
Todd struggles with the truth.
Sam is in disbelief.
Johnny suffers a nightmare.
Starr surprises Kate.
Sparks fly between Mac and Felicia!
Sam runs into someone.
Maxie wakes up to a surprise.
Spinelli helps Olivia.
If you have been wondering who has been playing District Attorney Campbell, the prosecutor in the trials of Starr and Maxie, his name is Christopher B. Duncan.
Anna Devane may ask John McBain to stick around and help her clean up Port Charles. How will that affect his relationship with Natalie and his son?
Anthony Zacharra's "ghost" will be haunting Johnny through the early part of June. Bruce Weitz has already finished taping. His last 'ghostly' scenes are expected to finish airing by the second week of June.
After a very difficult labor, Sam gives birth to a baby boy. There will be some complications, including excessive blood loss. Who is "with her" while she labors? Jason is with her when she delivers.
(Much Further down the road...) We will learn that Robin has never left Port Charles... and that she is not alone among the undead. Carlivati had originally planned to bring Robin back soon and have Robin and Patrick be reunited (before word came of GH's extension) as part of the show's ending. He mentioned in the most recent SID about Robin being really alive and that he'll develop that story over time.
And from GH Happenings RUMORVILLE.....
GH: Sibling Rivarly Begins ---
Rumorville: Molly is jealous when TJ is "wowed" by Kristina; Kristina will be less than thrilled regarding Starr's relationship with Michael.
Alexis rips into one side of Jason and down the other, with Sonny backing her up.
Maxie goes off on Mac after walking in on him and Felicia.
Will Johnny take advantage of his relationship with Carly without her knowledge?
And barely any Patrick and Elizabeth. McBam is just about the only thing keeping my interest.
So basically most of the upcoming spoilers concern the OLTL characters, while anything you get about the actual characters we care about seems off-character sometimes.
McBam keeps me going. But that's about it. Still wish there were more Q's instead of this screaming cartoonish Llanview characters - and less Sonny/mob.
Thanks Sassy, as always for the "goodies". The quotes from BrBa in light of the twitter stuff, are interesting. As an actor I'm pleased that he seems to be happy going somewhere a lot of us may not like in terms of character development. Where some see it as regression or OOC, it appears he views it as a different facet of John's personality/background for him to "play with". Whatever I or anyone thinks, I know he has the chops to do it justice, and will carry it off with his customary skill and relish...
Tbh, I don't see Johnny being written as OOC, I see it as him succumbing to the darkness we all saw he had inside of him when he first came on the show. When Johnny first came on the show he wasn't meant to be a good guy, he was softened to be paired with Lulu, but he always had that darker side to him, with the Claudia reveal, I think that pushed him over closer to that side. I'm interested to see where this darker Johnny is headed hopefully the writers don't write him into a corner, if Todd can still be around after all that and Jason and freakin Sonny can still be the antagonist, Johnny should be good.
This is what I'm going to be waiting for. Hahahahaha! I'd even go so far to say give him the Keifer treatment Mama Bear. I'm confused why Sonny would back her up though, he doesn't usually come down on the side of the woman in any equation.
Although I'd love for Sam to get to scream at Jason for a while. I like her best when she's finally had enough and lets him have it with both barrels.
Thanks for the spoilers!
EET - You make some valid points about why Jake shouldn't be brought back, but Elizabeth never saw Jake after the surgery, right? I don't think Jason or Lucky did either. He may have matched Joss for the kidney, but why does that matter? They are not related in any way. Any 'stand in' could have matched Joss.
I am ok with Alan coming back to haunt Tracy. I loved that!
UGH, on Kirsten Storms. I still feel like there is more to this story than what has been reported.
Ahanshew yes I would love alan with tracy or even if they do a death story with edward where suddenly he sees alan, because that would presume sd can do those days. I dont think he can come back for meaningful story, I would love to see monica more, maybe with a future love interest, so Im not sure I want him back BACK as an alive alan unless he is healthy enough to really go forward. but then again, whats the story? How does he tie in to hells or faison unless its some research in his history or knowledge base that he alone knows? It would have to be good.
As for jake, Liz saw him in the ambulance. I dont know that they showed her subsequently with Jake? Did JJ have scenes with jake? I dont think jason did. but I would have to buy that Jake was hit and then what? switched before the tested that he was a match for joss and replaced with someone that then robin and patrick operated on and didnt know he was NOT jake? It would be one thing if the story had been that dr. maruchi did the surgery or the doc that was friends with lisa because they might not know Jake, but certainly robin and patrick did. And both Jake AND this new half dead child (that what? they just happened to have lying around waiting for jake to get run over?) was ALSO a match to joss's rare kidney needs? I barely bought jake matched, but now Im suppose to imagine they had this kid on ice waiting and coincidentally HE also matches? (because if faux jake didnt match and joss rejected the kidney wouldnt that have come to light by now) Or did they diagnose a real jake with a fatal illness, took out his kidneys, and then someone swiped him? So he survived the car wreck AND having no kidneys and still lives? Then theres the issue of WHY jake. WOuldnt they have to tie aj or alkie or someone that might hate jason into this for it to make any sense - really why would hells or faison care?
Hmm... well, I think that there are multiple ways to bring Jake back (we have all seen far LESS plausible things on this show!). Who says it has to be Hells/Faison?? [Though it being them could make sense b/c everyone believed him to be Lucky's son & around the time of his death, Liz started getting wise to the fact that Adian looks like Lucky so she had the paternity test done so that part of Hells' plan was fading... so yeah, she & Faison couldn't keep Lucky locked down/under their control all those years ago, maybe they'd get his "son" (I mean this chick had a frozen Starvos-sickle, she could have Jake! ...she could have "saved" him when everyone thought he was braindead, & Joss could still have 1 of his kidneys).
Personally, I always thought that it could have been Franco trying to get the ultimate revenge on Jason.
This is a post I wrote on March 31, 2011:
JAQ: I really love your theory & I think it ties in perfectly with the one that I came up with & posted on March 17th:
"Picture it: Jason watches his son die. Liz, Lucky, & Jas are all devastated. The secret comes out & everyone grieves, WE the audience grieve. Then after the funeral, in the last closing seconds of the show we see Franco lovingly holding Jake, & saying to him that Uncle Franco is introducing him to his new Daddy. Franco knocks on the door and a man answers it. At first, we see the man only from behind, but we can see Franco holding Jake in front of the man, & while smiling Franco says, "Say hello to your son." The camera pans to the front & as Franco hands Jake over we see none other than AJ (muthaeffin'!) Quartermaine!!! ...Who takes Jake into his arms & says "Welcome home, MY son."
They could take our ideas & combine them for one hell of a story! ;0)
I would follow this up by having Jake come back with a hate-on for all things mob b/c AJ told him that he was adopted b/c of the danger of the mob & b/c his bio dad was a hitman that chose to stay in the mob rather than be a father to him. BUT, I would have AJ tell Jake that Liz wanted him & loved him, but thought it was safer that she send him away. I would have AJ tell Jake about HIS bio-son Michael, & show him news clippings of what mob-life/Jason did to his son (hello shootings, murder, & prison!) and how AJ & Jake's mother & Lucky didn't want that for him. I HATED the way TPTB had Micheal hating Carly & loving Sonny, when SHE was the one who never gave up on him & Sonny was the one who did, & you know, got him shot in the first place. So in my dream, when Jake comes back as a pre-teen next year, lol, he HATES Jason (heck, somebody on this show has to) AND Sonny AND Carly for what she did to AJ/Michael, quickly warms up to Liz & his brothers & Lucky, and totally LOVES AJ!! b/c though everyone tries to break AJ's hold, they can't b/c AJ has already told Jake the "truth": he's not his real father but loves him as his own (my soul is warmed with glee at the thought of Jason's son calling AJ "dad" hehe), Jason is a hitman, Liz loves him & would never abandon him, but Jason's enemies were closing in & everyone "thinking"/pretending that Jake was dead was for his safety, etc.).
This could still work, & make even more sense now that AJ would also be Franco's brother (though I still hope this is a dirty rotten lie!). Maybe AJ comes out of hiding b/c Franco hasn't checked-in in awhile...
EET - Jason watched the surgery from the observation bay and so would have seen Jake as well as Robin and Patrick. I think all three of them would recognize him. And although they didn't really show it, I believe both Liz and Lucky were with Jake when he was taken off of life support.
But why would franco have Robin then? or are we going to assume that robin is being held by one mad men and then weve got another mad man holding jake? I mean havent we almost universally begging for less villains and less redonkulous scenes/stories that are preposterous (ie: tracy and luke and here we are picking about all the inconsistencies?)
As for the scenario you cooked up thats a great explanation of what happens AFTER the fact, but how do you explain how he survived and when he was removed from the hospital? Your story doesnt address any of the issues Ive raised - WHEN exactly was jake removed? was he stolen from the street and the jake that was run over was a faux jake? Did liz not recognize then in the ambulance that this boy wasnt her son? Did Helena grow this new little boy in some strange human cloning petri dish just so that in four years he could lead the boy in to the middle of the road at exactly the moment her arch enemy drove by? Or did he get stolen by franco after the car accident but before scrubs operated? and if so, franco as a mere mortal (unlike faison or hells) - how did he save jason from his injuries? and as a serial killer, since he wouldnt have some strange human cloning petri dish, where did he get the substitute child. And why did patrick and robin not recognize this wasnt the little boy they had seen a million times before. Thats the part I have trouble with.
As for gigi dying and her and rex time traveling and tina and cord in mendora and all those other types of stories - two words - HATE IT. Sorry but I love things like sam telling her sisters about her rape. I loved kristinas abuse story. I loved the whole carly/tony/bobbie Im your kid story. I loved Robin/stones hiv story. I loved BJs heart. I loved luke and laura on the run the first time. when we started getting in to the ice princess stuff or stavros being frozen or casey the alien - I guess I thought those stories were good because I loved L&L and robert and anna but I didnt enjoy them nearly the same. The more absurd, the more apt you are to lose me. I hated project orpheus on AMC and Ive said though I love david hayward and VI I do NOT want david in pc because of that story and having them potentially carry it to GH. Enough is enough. Tell me stories that make me gasp at the reveal, cry at the loss, cheer at the victory and otherwise explore and produce real human emotion. And if you are going to use flights of fantasy, use them in moderation. We know robin is a back from the dead person. The question is what other people are with her. My first choice would be the people that make sense. personally I never bought em was definitely dead. Alan, aj and jake are far less believably UNDEAD. Justus doesnt give us nearly as much story and honestly I dont really remember how he died to say where he fits on the spectrum. Georgie is probably somewhere in between - not as easily undone as Em but more so that alan aj and jake. I guess in the end what im saying is that I dont want 15 million characters coming back and FOR ME I personally would rather see them going with the ones that make the most sense from story perspective stemming from/originating with the idea that robin is one of the people taken.
EET - Franco is dead so he isn't holding Robin or anyone else. After Jason shot him "someone" (cough Heather) burned down the building with his body in it.
And I agree! I don't enjoy the time travel, visits to other worlds and Dr. David Hayward having stashed away every dead person ever on AMC!! Those stories are way too unbelievable to me and only prove what bad writers the soaps have these days!
New spoilers from GH Happenings ---
Kate: The other shoe hasn't dropped yet. "What we are trying to do with Kate is get to the root of why Connie exists in the first place. There's always a cause for DID. What is the one incident in her life that caused all this?"
Johnny: Is being haunted by his actions that led to the deaths of Cole and Hope. "He convinced Connie to take responsibility for it, which let him off the hook legally, but not morally." He needs to rebuild his life. "He thinks if he can try to restore Starr's life that he can make up for what he did to her."
Starr: "She is trying to move beyond this phase of wanting revenge against Sonny so she can build something new. Will she and Michael be able to build a relationship at all?"
Todd: Todd is less than thrilled with some of Starr's choices especially with her career. "Todd took an instant disliking to Johnny. He doesn't want this guy taking an interest in Starr's life." Todd will "also be a wrinkle in the road to forgiveness and recovery for Johnny and Carly.
Dante/Lulu: Could a love from the past threaten their marriage? "Dante doesn't like Johnny... Dante has been right all along because he really believed that it was Johnny who planted the gun and tried to frame Sonny. In fact, Dante is one of the few people who have been correct about the whole thing!" Unfortunately no one else knows that. "Dante hasn't given up trying to get the truth, and Johnny remains his number 1 suspect", despite Connie's confession. "Seeing that Dante is gunning for" Johnny, "he won't be too pleased at all if Lulu has anything to do with Johnny!"
Luke: Thanks to the fact that Johnny dumped Anthony's body on the Q property, and that several people know that Tracy and Luke have discussed offing him, this complicates his relationship with Anna. "He has a certain closeness to both women that is pretty strong. You don't know quite how its going to shake out. Who will he ultimate turn to?
Kristina: She returns with a bit of an edge. "... she wants to make her own decisions and not be controlled. She will bumped up against Sonny and Alexis." She may also cause problems for Michael's relationship with Starr.
Molly: We find out about her status with TJ and what those two have been up to.
Heather: "Olivia smells a rat", regarding Maggie's demise. Will that put her in the line of fire?
The Haunted Star: It will be re-purposed and become a place where some characters are starting over.
Quote Source: Ron Carlivati/SID
Kristina's Back!...With a Dose of "Reality"!
Kristina's return to Port Charles is NOT going to be good news for her mom and dad. Not only is she furious at Alexis and Sonny for buying her way into Yale, but her form of payback is going to put Alexis and Sonny's lives on display for the whole world to see.
Kristina has her own reality show – "Mob Princess."
Kristina is home for the summer and she's wise to her parents' ways. NUKristina, Lindsey Morgan, explains, "All she wants from them is the truth, and she doesn't get it. So she's going to pull out her ace and get her vengeance!"
Kristina's vengeance reflects the dysfunction of her family in a way that has the potential of exploding in her face! "Kristina is the perfect blend of both of her parents. She is very ethical, like her mother. She's very honest and tells how she feels about things, which I feel comes from her mother, who lays down the law. Then again, she's very much like her father because she is very stubborn and can be kind of a hot head."
Kristina's family project will be part humor, part drama and create a new problem for Sonny and Alexis to have to deal with. Can they handle it gracefully if they present a united front? Morgan hints, "Both her parents are very strong, and when they come together... whoa!"
Sam and Tea, will find themselves going into labor. And that's just the beginning. The increasingly tumultuous emotional triangle between Jason, Sam, and John McBain has reached a fever pitch, with Jason determined to send John a message in the form of some violent thugs. But what happens when Sam has to deliver the baby and John is the only one who can help her?
Téa finds an unlikely source of help when she goes into labor: Todd. Things start to go seriously wrong, however, and it's up to Todd to save both mother and child.
In case this all wasn't crazed enough, look for Heather Webber to find herself caught up in the fray!
Anthony's dead body has gone missing, much to Luke and Tracy's dismay. But while they search for the body, Dante has a warrant to arrest his father-in-law. How's Luke getting out of this one? Look for Lulu to get caught up in all the drama. Oh, and what does Heather have to do with all this? Notice the theme this week – Heather's all up in everyone's business.
Matt confesses to Patrick and Elizabeth that he killed Lisa. But Maxie has one more surprise that will throw a wrench into the legal proceedings against him.
Laura Wright in SOD, Carly "still cares about [Johnny], but it is going to take a lot for him to win back her trust."
Todd struggles with the truth.
Todd tells Starr that it was Kate who killed Cole and Hope.
Starr apologizes to Michael for blaming Sonny.
Kate may be caught offguard by the visitor who swings by for a chat: Starr!
Starr doesn't blame her for the deaths of Hope and Cole.
Sparks fly between Mac and Felicia!
Johnny suffers from nightmares.
Heather crashes into Tea's car causing her to go into labor.
Todd arrives and finds Tea in labor.
Todd and Tea bicker as the baby is born.
Todd takes Tea and the baby to GH.
Todd and Heather reach an agreement.
Steve sets out after Heather in the storm.
Heather manages to avoid being seen by Steve.
Sam labors as the storm worsens. Alone with the baby, Sam begins to bleed profusely and passes out.
Sam is in disbelief.
Sam encounters into someone.
Heather finds Sam.
Jason rushes Sam to General Hospital.
Will Anna's new job push Luke and Anna further apart or pull them closer together?
Carlivati had originally planned to bring Robin back soon and have Robin and Patrick be reunited (before word came of GH's extension) as part of the show's ending. He mentioned in the most recent SID about Robin being really alive and that he'll develop that story over time. "Its just a question of when can we do it? As we know, Kimberly is exploring some other stuff in her life right now, which I think is wonderful for her. If and when Kimberly is available to come back, that is really when we will tell this story in full force!" For now, Patrick will continue to believe that Robin is dead. "We'll be watching him go on a journey, with the audience knowing that at the end of it somewhere is Robin."
SOD reports that Nathin Butler (Dr. Ewan Keenan) was let go in late May. No word yet on his final air date. UPDATE: When asked by fans about his departure, Butler tweeted, "No, I'll be sticking around." Confusion reigns!
LOL sassy yes I know franco is dead..that was more a rhetorical - so does franco have robin - question...because we know he doesnt. so if jake is in the basement with robin, he isnt being held by franco. thats why i dont see how the jake/franco storyline works unless we are going to have hells having a not really dead Robin while across town franco and an also not dead aj have a not dead jake. How many layers of doom dungeons are hiding around the town of PC anyway? LOL Does caleb the vampire have all these people and does lucy the vampire slayer coe know about it lol.
OOH I smell a brain tumor for johnny. Just my gut but Im going with brain tumor
Oh, goodness, EET! You and Miry should just write the material yourselves. Forget Ron and Frank. They're old...
EET - LOL!! I know YOU know but I just thought I'd repeat it for those that still seem to think Franco has Jake. If there are any soap Gods or Goddesses we will NEVER have Franco back on our screens again!!
Sassy-You've been a busy, busy bee. Thanks for the new batch of "goodies".
Having just seen the new Kristina, yeah, you can see the edge. Even from those last seconds on air. I'm gonna reserve judgement till she gets going.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing NLG's Alexis deal with the fall out
from the "Admittance to Yale" that wasn't. The bully will just bellow like a wounded bull. (Just my opinion there.)
I noticed there wasn't anything about McBain's girlfriend and son. Any thoughts on whether they show up? Or would there be more backlash?
As for my D&L, I just adore them to pieces, so let them be tested. I know JMB, DZ, and BrBa will handle the triangle beautifully when it comes to pass...
Here are SoapCentral.com's new spoilers ---
Jason turns to Liz for help
Jason takes his anger out on John for tipping off the cops
Sonny and Jason make sure that John gets a message
Kristina makes an announcement to her family
Sonny and Alexis have strong objections to Kristina's plans
Anna isn't interested in replacing Mac as the police commissioner
The case against Matt hits a snag, thanks to Maxie
Spinelli is left brokenhearted
Dante and Delores arrive at Johnny's penthouse with a search warrant
Luke and Tracy's frantic search for Anthony's body lands them in trouble
Lulu demands answers from her father
Johnny is determined to frame Luke and Tracy for Anthony's murder
Heather's new friend is dead weight
Sam and Téa go into labor
Unlikely sources are on hand to help Sam and Téa
Complications arise with the newborns
Jason realizes that he wants Sam and the baby in his life
Jason begs for forgiveness
Todd has second thoughts about what he's done
Sonny goes to Shadybrook
Starr does the unexpected
Johnny's guilty conscience plagues his dreams
Mac's life takes an unexpected turn, personally and professionally
And a few spoilers from Soaps.com ---
John McBain is being followed.
Heather makes a phone call.
Steve gets wasted.
Kate continues to deteriorate.
Kristina lashes out at her parents.
Sam's mom and sister try to help her.
Todd, Tea and Carly fight with Starr and Michael.
Carly and Todd like working together.
Johnny still wants Carly back.
Tea and Todd run into trouble on the road.
Sam gets trapped.
And while I'm at it here are some tidbits from SoapZone ---
The GH casting department needs a handsome, young actor to be a romantic foil for Starr and Michael, probably for a summer triangle. They’re auditioning actors now with Kristen Alderson (Starr). A kissing scene’s involved too.
Calm down, JaSam fans. Portrayer Rebecca Herbst (Elizabeth) promises her character is not out to break up Jason and Sam in any way. She’s actually in the couple’s corner, trying to coax Jason to give Sam another chance. Besides, Herbst said, Elizabeth’s long since moved on.
Nathin Butler (Ewen) recently tweeted that his character will survive (thanks to Dr. Drake Jr.). Fans of Ewen will be glad to know this actor is also a musician with his own band, The Sugar.
Jane Elliot (Tracy) acts with a difference. Perhaps because she doesn’t go with the flow like everybody else. She doesn’t do social networks. She never had plastic surgery. She’d rather not be recognized in public places. You’ll never find her doing fan events. It’s helped with her often villainous roles, to maintain the integrity of whatever it takes to pull off—without fear of retribution. At least, Elliot thinks so. “I'm not one of those actors who spends a lot of time engaging with the audience,” she told TV Guide’s Michael Logan in a May 15th-updated interview. “I'm fierce about my anonymity, which is why it's easy for me to play the villain. I'm not close enough to the audience to have them throw a pie in my face because of something Tracy just did.” She also doesn’t pine away for the damsel in distress roles. Elliot’s perfectly fine to play the villain, without flinching. She revealed that she doesn’t even like Tracy as a person, but she does like the “multi-dimensional” depths Tracy as a character gives her to play.
The respected veteran soap actress also strongly endorsed new executive producer Frank Valentini as a maverick, just like the late Gloria Monty was when she took on GH in the golden era of the 1980s. Elliot admired the workhorse ethic of Valentini, who “is the first one in the building in the morning and the last one out at night. And he works all weekend!,” as well as his fresh vision. “This is not to say that the people before him didn't care, but he's committed to this show in a very unique way. There's no substitute for loving the medium. You know that saying ‘A new broom sweeps clean?’ Well, that's Frank. As good as [former exec producer] Jill Phelps was and as much as I loved working with her, a new broom sweeps clean. Frank comes to this show with fresh eyes, with no disappointments, no frustrations over lost battles. He comes with everything he has to give.”
Elliot then praised new head writer Ron Carlivati for finally using her mob history (back when she crossed over to The City) in story. It’s something she’d wanted previous head writer Bob Guza Jr. to do, to no avail. “I tried for nine years to get Bob Guza to acknowledge that Tracy had been married to a member of the mob in New York and he completely ignored it. But within minutes of Ron getting there he brought it up, and I love him for that! I'm told that they're going to do a love triangle with Anna [Finola Hughes], Luke and Tracy, and how thrilling would that be? How good is that? In all my years on GH, Tracy has never been in a triangle!”
She’s absolutely thrilled to have some GH veterans back and joining her and her friend Tony Geary (Luke) for their own stories. There’s a “muscle memory” amongst them that you can’t fake. “When Tony and I look at each other on camera you see all of that history. It goes beyond the words. It's two people who have spent more than half their lives together.”
Wishing everyone here on the GH Spoiler thread a fabulous, relaxing, blessed and safe Memorial Day. Hug a veteran if you can and say "Thank You!"...
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