Why is it Y&R fans?

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Why is that GH can bring back some of their most difficult actors Jackie Z. (according to history she was outspoken) and Genie Francis but Y&R can't seem to bring back Victoria Rowell? Genie Francis pretty much dissed the show on Oprah and in the press about the writing and all. And she still gets a tciket back to heaven. What is the deal at Sony?


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Maybe it's CBS that doesn't

Maybe it's CBS that doesn't want her back, not Sony.

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@SoapArmageddon: guess they

@SoapArmageddon: guess they said "bitch called out our discrimination and now we'll change our ways, but you won't be coming back!"

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Did you read the interview in

Did you read the interview in SOD? Maybe it will still happen.

Everyday I see Neil on the screen, I think how much she's missed.

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No, but I hope it does

No, but I hope it does happen. That is the shot in the arm Y&R needs right now. It needs some big press.

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No, but I hope it does

No, but I hope it does happen. That is the shot in the arm Y&R needs right now. It needs some big press.

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ITA...but VR exposed Sony...I

ITA...but VR exposed Sony...I don't think it was CBS because of history of A-A's S|L from the past. Their was ugliness on VR & Sony which CBS might want it happen but it's Sony's character. I don't see it happening but never say never if CBS truly does get involved to pressure Sony.

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If they could put their

If they could put their differences aside, the return of Victoria Rowell, in a well told story would be the major shot of adrenaline for Y&R. A guaranteed ratings boost IMO. Plus how wonderful if they brought back Tonya Lee Williams and Veronica Reed as Olivia and Mamie. Three character the audience loves who's pasts are in tact because they were all off the canvas (minus a few brief stints by TLW) when the show was poorly told. That in itself is a blessing.

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I've been harassing Steve

I've been harassing Steve Kent on twitter about it...lol. so much so that Victoria Rowell has followed me. LOLOL.

However, calling out discrimination upsets people. I mean, it doesn't even involve others, but even some fans (a lot of people even on THIS site) suddenly dislike VR for calling out everything that we'd been seeing on screen for years. So if some discriminatory FANS dont want her back because of her truth...then of course SONY will have a problem accepting her back.

But the same question I asked Steve Kent, I will pose now. If CBS and SONY are trying everything in their power to keep Y&R on air...and to restore it back to what it was, quality AND ratings wise, then why won't they bring on the ONE sure-fire ratings winner? It just doesn't make sense to me. Youd think the cast, crew, and Sony had to sleep with Victoria Rowell instead of WORK with her. I don't like a vast majority of people I work with, but it doesn't stop me from collecting that check every week.

And while I'm rambling, it just shows the discrimination n daytime PERIOD. Genie Francis, Tony Geary, Peter Bergman, Eric Braeden, Jeanne Cooper, etc...have ALL spoken badly about their shows, their storylines, other cast members, etc...but they are ALL still employed in daytime in their respective soaps.

Meanwhile, Victoria Rowell speaks about an IMPORTANT issue in daytime and in television PERIOD, and she's suddenly too difficult. Kristoff St. John FINALLY stepped up to the plate and spoke about his airtime, and he was backburned for HOW many years? Bryton wanted out of the "black box" and instead, he was put out of the entire factory just about.

Say what you will, but the facts speak for themselves. Something's not right...and I don't have to spell it out. We all see what's going on.

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Stoney07, all I can say

Stoney07, all I can say is...AMEN

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Stoney07, I'll second

Stoney07, I'll second Dutchess' Amen.

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That must be some serious

That must be some serious harrassing there, Stoney for VR to follow you!! Wink

And I completely agree with everything you wrote.

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Well put stoney. Dont forget

Well put stoney.

Dont forget about the total destruction of the Latino families on Y&R that took place a decade ago. NO more Gutierrez family by 2004. Diego gone, Raul gone. Very sad. Hopefully Josh G can bring back some of that Hispanic flavor with the Adriana and Alex s/l. Although I say keep Alex and have him boinking a female cast member by Feb 28, and re-cast Adriana immediately.

As far as JFP foes, she has one eye on the bottom line. Max Ehrich, Tracey Bregman (maybe by her own choice), Ignacio Serratio, are all non-contract players.

I would guess that a prime-time actress (6 years on Diagnosis: Murder) such as Victoria Rowell, would want to come back as a contract player, with a large salary. That would be something JFP would probably be loathe to do.

I'm not sure about GH and the return of Genie Francis, and others whom I have never seen on-screen. But are those actors and actresses (Jack Wagner, etc) just popping in for a week or two? I cannot imagine that GH is offering Genie Francis the type of role she had on Y&R (Genevieve), where she was on almost every day as Cane's Mother, Tucker's childhood lover, Jack's finace', etc.

So to say that Rowell would come back for, let's say, the salary of Angie Conwell (Leslie), would probably not be accurate. And, unless she did/does, and continues in her 'penance' (which I don't think she should have to do, cause she was telling the truth), we will probably have to assume that Drucilla Barber Winters, is living with some lumberjack, in northern-Wisconsin/Upper-Peninsula-Michigan (near the 2007 Jabot photo 'shoot'), with amnesia.

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Sad to say, I don't think Dru

Sad to say, I don't think Dru will be back...unless Y&R gets cancelled or is threatened to get cancelled. it will be their last ditch effort....

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The longer they, whether they

The longer they, whether they be CBS or SONY, take to bring her back, the more convinced I am that Victoria Rowell is telling the truth when she accuses them of discriminatory practices.

To use one of Dru's favorite expressions, "God don't like ugly."

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SoapArmageddon, I agree. I

SoapArmageddon, I agree.

I just wish the powers that be really had the show and ITS FANS interests at heart.

Big-wigs hate to be challenged and exposed. I work for a company like that.

I love the history of diversity on the show. Yes, it failed miserably in the past several years, but I do think Y and R really did showcase its AA characters for a VERY long time under Bill and then under Kay. Too bad it didn't recognize this as ratings continued to erode.

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I'm a huge VR fan and would

I'm a huge VR fan and would love to see her back. From what I recall, a big reason for her exile was her relationships, or lack thereof, with her fellow castmates. If I'm remembering correctly, she had major issues with Michelle Stafford and Chrystal Kalil, among others. CK even threatened to quit the show if VR returned. Again, this might be all rumor, but if any of it's true, it could be bad for morale among the cast.