What to do about Y&R?

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BTW: Jess Walton has some

BTW: Jess Walton has some fabulous photos of her and Jeanne on her Facebook page.

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Yes I check Jess's FB page a

Yes I check Jess's FB page a few weeks ago but it has been since Oct since she posted anything but went and saw them, they were great pics of Jess & Jeanne.

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Wow, so happy to hear Beth is

Wow, so happy to hear Beth is on her way back; Traci has been absent for way too long. And in a storyline with former enemy/frenemy Lauren? In my mind, that's what you call instant gold. Cannot wait.

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Is Congressman Wheeler's wife

Is Congressman Wheeler's wife named Rose?

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Glad Beth Maitland is back,

Glad Beth Maitland is back, if she does something other than be window-dressing for an 'Abbott Event'.

Instant Gold? Not sure how Lauren is going to figure in to the mix, but there are only a few of us old-timers who remember the Great War between Ms Abbott and Ms Fenmore back in the late 80s, and it seems kinda hollow without my man, Brad Carlton, on the scene.

'And Carmine, I knew Brad Carlton, ...and let me tell you... Carmine, you are no Brad Carlton.'

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I think Congressman Wheeler's

I think Congressman Wheeler's wife's name was Melinda back when Nikki was talking to her on the phone back in February...

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apparently, that Steve Burton

apparently, that Steve Burton fan works here:

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Yeah, Brad was a big sticking

Yeah, Brad was a big sticking point--so to speak--between those two. But there was so much more to that war than that speedo-loving poolboy. Even beyond Brad, what always stuck with me regarding those two was the bullying--Lauren was a grade-A bitch to Traci for years before Brad even entered the picture(or either of them for that matter Wink ). Either way, love love love Beth Maitland and Traci. Now if we can just get Ash back on the canvas--world-class recast Brenda Epperson, where art thou? ED is busy right now OWNING Days but BE was, to this day, one of the best recasts in soaps. Ever. Let's forget about anymore newbies--or flashbacks of Dylan and Avery--and get on the horn to BE so our Ash can come back.

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hey mon wrote: 'And Carmine,

hey mon wrote:

'And Carmine, I knew Brad Carlton, ...and let me tell you... Carmine, you are no Brad Carlton.'

And can Heymon get an AMEN from the choir.......they just had to freeze my eye candy in the damn pond and send him to LA. MAB YOU SUCK for killing off the Carlton's. Angry

Anyhow, CANNOT wait to see Beth, and Tracy helping to bring Lauren down. Should be some must see TV. Well lets hope haven't had too much of it on the screen the last month.

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I thought Wheeler's wife was

I thought Wheeler's wife was named Anne? Who knows? Didn't Tracy & Lauren (Lauren did apologize to Tracy) when Colleen died, maybe Tracy will actually be a friend to Lauren in the aftermath of the affair...

Has anyone else notice (I might be picky) but the canvas seems so "islanded"...meaning characters only react with certain characters. There is no interaction or community feel to show. This has been missing w\Josh, I will say (don't fall over Hey mon Wink ) at least MAB did have all characters interact better with each other. Jill hasn't talked to Lauren, Billy hasn't seen his mother, Jack hasn't spoke to Sharon, Nick hasn't limited time with Adam, Kevin & Michael scenes minimum, no Glo, Nikki limited time w\Katherine, Phyllis hasn't talked in months to Michael, which Michael should be commensurating with best bud, Phyllis...and it goes on and think this is problem with the Josh's take on the writing, minor which could be easily fixed. It needs the community feel again and stop worrying about Dylan\Avery show.

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My fave clips of Katherine, I

My fave clips of Katherine, I got home after the restaurant closed and started watching clips of Jeanne, wanted to see if any updates and so many but decided to post a few of "Katherine The Great"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DpQu2kGsdio
Katherine gloats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E8IwD4_Fohc
Memories of Phillip ~~ This is how it's done JFP & Josh, no quick takes but Bill's style...nothing but Kay & Jill for 15 minutes...take a cue and learn how not to rush a scene Wink Learn from a master who graduated from Irna school of soap.

Bickering Bitches~~~some hilarious hits of Kay & Jill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cOZaFRCZG-0 "I'm going to relish every moment of it"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaw3BE0xp78&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbNP8DEdIy0&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8Q9YvAMLCsU Kay's drinking again
plus since Tracy coming home great scene between Jack (Terry) & Tracy

Marge original run w\Bill not hack Maria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igdbXBMyYkQ&feature=player_embedded

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Oh, LOVE all those fight

Oh, LOVE all those fight clips between Kay & Jill. Especially the one at the church waiting for the wedding, when Katherine promises to "shake the truth out of Jill". Hee hee!

For me, the best physical fight between these two ever was the fight at the courtroom in 1995, just before Billy's custody hearing. That clip is awesome! I think Katherine calls Jill a tramp, a slut and a bitch all during that fight.

HERE it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbte7Ax2Q0E

Oh, what soapy goodness!!! Laughing out loud

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Harlee -- You stop calling

Harlee -- You stop calling Maria a hack, but you're still a nice person.

But anyway, my favorite fight between Kay and Jill was in 96 right before the Estate hearing. Those 2 really went at it!

Noway -- MAB and her desire to make all things Newman, so she kills of Brad Carlton! Then Colleen 6 months later!

Shadam? Not even close. The death of Diane Diane? Evil, but not that big of an event. But killing off Brad and Colleen, then Ricky? MAB, it is really hard to defend you.

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HERE we go! 2 complete

HERE we go! 2 complete episodes of Y&R in good quality that has been recently posted for the 40th...first one is from '75, with all the original Fosters, my favorite Greg, Katherine & Phillip, original Leslie my favorite w\Brad w\commercials. This is the Jill I fell in love with I was 14 and look at the difference Brenda Dickson's performance compared to her over the top performance right before she left. Awesome...I think I will post it on CBS's & Y&R's FB to have this new team get a clue...there are rumblings I read they are bringing back some the original score because of the complaining Wink The clips I posted with Jill\Phillip ties into these two episodes makes sense of the how the story Bill was crafting...this one the found out Bill had a lung removed due to smoking and had emphysema and was dying...in '1975..Bill died in '1976 a year later...Bill slow as molasses storying telling, some fans today as we hear it all the time is "boring" but Bill was so thorough and it made so much sense to the viewer. Notice this was the last year for the original Snapper by the next year DH was Snapper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly2TxDl-QzY

2nd was from November sweeps in '76, Bill Foster's attack was from drunken biddy Katherine smoking heavily around Bill that caused his attack and Liz pulled the plug. This one has my Laurie and Leslie is pregnant w\Brad's baby and scheming ass Laurie to once again get back at your sister Leslie is bedding Brad...LOVED this story! Love Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikzaXf8nqhc

I also included that I found (my sister had the album released back then on Y&R's score) called Leslie's theme...I couldn't believe I found this...this is for Hey mon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyU8kicoOZM Love Love Love
I'm in heaven!

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Hey mon I won't stop...sorry

Hey mon I won't stop...sorry about you luck ...NOT happening

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I loved those scenes with

I loved those scenes with Jill and Katherine, and that scene when Katherine walked up the stairs and Jill asked if she needed help, brought tears to my eyes. Did Jeanne may-be know that she was very ill when she filmed these scenes? I can see on her face and movements she didn't look right. The scene walking up the stairs reminded me so much of GH when the actor who played Edward Quartermaine passed away and they used the back of a stand-in, walking up the stairs with his late wife into the light. It was so beautifully done. I hope somehow Jeanne will fight and pull thru but we all don't really know what she is ill with. I know she was very sick with the flu a few months back. God Bless her, what a strong, feisty lady.

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Those scenes with Jill and

Those scenes with Jill and Katherine on Friday were heavy. Very sad.

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What's wrong with Y&R...well

What's wrong with Y&R...well here we go again folks rumor has it there is yet ANOTHER casting call, for......wait for it............................ An army buddy of stiff Stevie, err ahhh Dylan.

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Are you serious? Y&R

Are you serious? Y&R actually has been better the last week actually...just ohhh...sigh

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UGH....I'm enjoying the show

UGH....I'm enjoying the show again...I hope this is just a rumor.

Anyway, tomorrow Leslie asks Neil about his family. I have NEVER heard anything about Neil's family besides Malcolm. Whatever happened to his parents? Any aunts or uncles? I'm sooo lost on that. Lily never mentions grandparents either...

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Harlee... who are those hot

Harlee... who are those hot guys?

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Hey Y&R been much better this

Hey Y&R been much better this past week and today was very good and Victoria is out to get Victor Jr.. I'm thinking Victoria does know that Chelsea is having Adam's baby and she's waiting to drop the bomb. I like Victoria being more aggressive as Victor...and Billy dreaming was hilarious.

I was jumping up & down tell us who Rose is! Shock ..than Gus died, it was sad.

Abby first real big day, was better than expected I guess my own expectations, we'll see...Where's Chavez? did I spell this correctly?

Dylan was in WHITE shirt, I've been on FB complaining how Dylan isn't supposed to be Jason a lot because lately Dylan has been in black or dark t-shirts lately. Wink Very Jason. But the scene with Dylan & Chelsea was good I must admit.

OoooooH tomorrow Paul's finds the truth about Lauren\Carmine is going to be delicious TV Love Crazy

Lets hope we are going to get back some balance now....wait to see!

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Harlee...I agree this week

Harlee...I agree this week has been better. I liked yesterday's a lot and today's I'd give a B-.

I do like Victoria being a lot more assertive. Like that she's hired this guy to get some dirt. And even though it looks likes she's a completely different Abby...just like Kyle...she seems to be a decent actress. Ehh.

This is going to sound bad, but I'm glad that Gus is no longer with us. I didn't feel any of the parties involved knocked their scenes out of the park. Especially my man Tyler. Let's move this "Rose" connection forward. GIVE US SOMETHING UNEXPECTED here!

And finally the Avery/Dylan/Nick/Chelsea mess. I used to like Avery because she seemsed strong and held up against Phyllis, but lately Josh has turned her into a desperate female. Oh the humanity of this story...

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Yeah, The Show has been

Yeah, The Show has been really good this week. Not way too over-exposed of Dylan and Avery. Not sure why an old Army buddy would be following him to Genoa City.

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Thanks for the message,

Thanks for the message, Harlee. Beer

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Tomorrow's going to be great,

Tomorrow's going to be great, and I personally can not wait. Any episode with Lauren/Paul/Carmine/Michael/Fen is an episode worth watching to me.

And I want to see what Neil says about his family because I really don't remember anything about his fam...

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Yoryla...I didn't realized

Yoryla...I didn't realized you had posted this scene. Excellent catfight once again...thanks again for the posting...love my bickering bitches! Love

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KSJ just posted this

KSJ just posted this interviewing Jeanne about winning an Emmy which she finally did win in '08...so fitting, this was '99-00 Emmy night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EkAeqQoJkdI

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Hitting all news AP & CBS

Hitting all news AP & CBS Evening News here's a great article on Jeanne from

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/young-and-restless-star-jeanne-cooper-die...

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The Talk put something up

The Talk put something up this afternoon which I didn't see because was all over the web when I was twitter and it broke...The Talk was the first one I tweeted about Jeanne Cooper, I'm so happy and I bet they will to a special on The Talk, Jeanne just appeared recently... Sad

http://www.cbs.com/shows/the_talk/video/1j2Bsy4Kp7dVO4Y9XmIo_y3wnJXupRXL...

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Was so nice to see the CBS

Was so nice to see the CBS Evening News honor her.

Classy for a very classy lady.

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Just posted on YT the last

Just posted on YT the last scene with Jeanne & Jess and it's getting hit hard ...makes a person (at least me) starting bawling like a baby all over....you think both knew of the this might or could be the last....makes you wonder?
Look at Jeanne and Jess's expressions...this is feelings not acting except by names of "Katherine & Jill"
I guess we can all cry together Sad Sad :( Sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NMZu07sjwf8

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No problem, harlee! I had

No problem, harlee!

I had been looking for it from YT for almost a year, and then finally someone uploaded it. It is often a forgotten piece of catfighting, but SO good in the history of Kay & Jill! Smile

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gonna try to watch the CBS

gonna try to watch the CBS evening news online.

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GOD I LOVE HER! Through

GOD I LOVE HER! Through tears there should be laughter and this piece made me smile. I will miss Jeanne and Mrs. C.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorGNQ5npns

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Good piece Restless, she will

Good piece Restless, she will always be remember as Katherine Chancellor. This is from the 40th anniversary piece!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxr1jvwNml0

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I see Sheryl Underwood was

I see Sheryl
Underwood was visibly upset, too.

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Restless...great piece from

Restless...great piece from CNN. Thanks for posting it. I'm sure there a lot of others we need to see that honor her.

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Its wonderful seeing the

Its wonderful seeing the coverage her death is getting. A reminder to those youth obsessed idiots in Hollywood who the real stars are.

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On a positive

On a positive note...decompressing from the reality now of last night...I sat down and watched yesterday's episode again.

The saying "Chicken Soup for the Soul" well "balance" is good for soul too and YR has had up of uptick in balance the last week...so much more enjoyable to watch and with more vets and hasn't been heavy Ken & Cupcake Barbie of late. I can tolerate balance with those two...we have no choice..much rather watch SB & MCE better entertainment and those two is chemistry laded...I'm like to see what comes of this because maybe by ending the Ken\Barbie show and move forward is the way to go...IMHO

Yesterday had great balance to watch compared to 3 weeks ago...

Phack is pure GOLD...Tracy will up Firecrotch's ass now...great feeling to have the Abbott mansion busting with Abbotts Love This is well done, Tracy brings something to this canvas and weaves great through most characters, nothing like having one of Jack's sisters there to keep a watchful eye...

Fen is scary..hey mon I think you're getting your wish Wink Max is a FIND!
Carmine is sneaky... Evil

Great to see finally a scene with Michael & Phyllis talking...been forever. This is an important aspect of the show's history are Phyllis & Michael's deep friendship. Like wise seeing Paul & Lauren...Paul's lived Michael's life w\Lauren, reining Lauren in and laying on the pressure like Paul knows how by giving Lauren the courage to step forward...this does hit the fan..Paul will be there for Lauren still...love it...that's use of good history.

I hope this turns into a story for Neil, exploring his roots, maybe a father of both him & Malcolm is alive, this could be a great story for KSJ to play and play it out! Stare I'm sick of the rapid pace of some of these "guest arcs" need to go...does nothing. For Leslie & Tyler is connected to "Rose"...Josh take your time with this story and it could be good.

YR has been better TV..again.. Big smile

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Knowing we don't have Jeanne

Knowing we don't have Jeanne anymore to grace our show, it was comforting to see Beth in her Abbott living room yesterday.

God, I miss those old days. What a show! Sad

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I'm a new member here but a

I'm a new member here but a long time viewer of the show and dealt with LML and hack MAB. The new EP & HW did really well when they first took over but the show is getting boring, they have to tone down Avery, Chelsea, and Dylan's screen time. Avery is a whining blubbering mess, Chelsea is boring and a joke, writers are really overusing those two and revolving the show around them when they are pretty bland and boring to watch IMO. Dylan is just so monotone and boring, glad Sharon isn't paired up with him, she'll get dragged into boredom with him.

There isn't anything sexy about trying to turn an affair into a love story between Dylan & Avery. Trying to make Dylan and Avery both look like good people when Avery is nothing but two faced and Dylan a boring bore who cared less that Avery was married as long as he got what he wanted. No excuse for cheating, if Avery was unhappy in the marriage then she should have filed for divorce.

Now have to deal with this stupid Dylan/Chelsea crapfest, well just FF material for me since I don't find any of them interesting and Chelsea lying to a man about being a father wow how much lower can she get.

Writers think that breaking up or causing so much turmoil in marriages so soon is the way to go but it isn't. Lauren/Michael, Lily/Cane, Kevin/Chloe, Victoria/Billy, etc.

All characters are stuck in one place as they mostly have the same conversations over and over and over. Especially Chelsea and Chloe, they repeat everything about everyday. They have to move these stories along,they are moving at a snail's pace.

I rather see Paul & Christine's relationship develop, Paul is always getting the short end of the stick when it comes to a relationship because his relationship with Nina was off screen. This is an insult to Doug Davidson as he's one of the best actors on the show.

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Excellent post,

Excellent post, Hypnotik!!!!!!!!!!!

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@Hypnotik...yes April was

@Hypnotik...yes April was horrible mess of pushing Dylan\Avery crap but I will say it has been better balance the last few weeks. I much rather see Dylan\Chelsea compared to the other, not the most exciting story granted but at least there is better chemistry between the actors.

Licael affair and fallout has been outstanding and probably the strongest story since the pre-anniversary episodes.

As for Lily\Cane I do feel there needs to separation but agreed on how this setup is being executed has fallen flat. It needs to be more organic breakup with Lane, maybe differences in their children or jobs but forcing Tyler\Lily to magically hookup brings nothing either, Josh missed it with the introduction of Tyler. They have backed off of "in your panties Tyler lately" and he's starting to grow on me just b\c of Leslie...I should say he's tolerable to me now compared to the beginning when they introduced him.

Villy, there needs to be conflict in their relationship, it's been a few years and this is what soaps are all about is conflict. I don't mind that Victoria is trying to have a baby as many others b\c many couples go years of trying to have a child and personally if there is a Newman\Abbott spawn again it once again brings story between both families.

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@harlee490 - I see what

@harlee490 - I see what you're saying about Villy with a baby but that's all that couple been talking about. All Vikki does is mope about a baby and Newman Enterprises while Billy is the perpetual screw up. Villy already have a nice family, they have Delia, Reed, & Johnny. Billy can really get Delia since Chloe & Kevin resorted to stealing and getting arrested. I know they want to have a child of their own, but sometimes it's just best to be grateful for what you have.

Lily & Cane OMG that couple is so boring and if they're gonna break them up, they're really making Lily look bad. I mean she got all mad whenever Cane was around Chelsea, Lily would get upset and Cane would cut ties with Chelsea for Lily and Lily agreed to not be around Tyler but there she is and getting jealous if he's around another woman, makes no sense for Lily to act like that since Cane has showed how much he cares for Lily. Granted I'm no Cane fan since he's a liar and a big hypocrite.

Michael deserves better than Lauren anyway. Michael at least tries to talk about his problems while Lauren gets turned on by some stupid dumb bartender who attempted to kidnap a member of her own family Chloe. Lauren might as well tried sleeping with Ryder.

From what I'm seeing these writers like the previous ones don't like women either. Having Sharon be Adam's sex toy, Lily being stupid, Lauren being an unremorseful slut, there are no words for Chloe she's just gone on a downward spiral since her marriage to Kevin and writers continue to trash her character with making the fake baby daddy her idea when it's Chelsea's idea first and writers are rewriting it.

See how over pimped Chelsea is when it comes to the men of GC. First she has sex with Billy for her own needs, then Adam wants her, then Alex tries to get with her, Cane becomes googly eyed when he was around her, now Dylan wants to be with her because she's pregnant with "his" child. All within a short time span, ridiculous.