SOD Reporting New Character on YR!!!! Esmerelda!!

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OK, here we go again round 2 of newbies & new writers. Jill & Josh brought in a slew of new characters and than didn't know what to do or write for them and now Jill & Shelley Alt-"hack"-man is going to probably cast another slew of newbies since nobody can figure out how to write for the wonderful established cast...Geez! Bill left a wonderful, intact cast with deep histories to enrich but I guess it's way to intricate to write because Altman needs "color by numbers chart" to write.

Esmerelda sounding like a pitch for "Passions" Angry

This might be a story for Summer but this illustrates how lousy at this time and no knowledge about the show and how it's being written...nothing creative for Hunter King and she's a bright spot but more whining and insecurity and gloom....for Summer Oups

http://cbs.soapsindepth.com/2013/10/trouble-for-yrs.html#more


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Summer-antha

...and Summer-antha walked around her house, looking at the latest mis-conjurings of her wayward hocus-pocus casting housekeeper/nanny. As Mrs Kravits walked up to her front door, Summer-antha yelled out to the air, "Yoo-hoo, Esmerelda. Can you conjure up something to get rid of that horrible Producer, Jill Farren Phillips?"

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CBS put out a press statement

CBS put out a press statement saying how well YR did the week of 14th (Delia's death) which we all knew would happen surrounding Delia's death, no surprise. Now with transition of head writers I think reality will hit them and ratings will decline.

This is a double edge sword, if ratings stay as they are currently nobody JFP will not be fired but at the same time if ratings fall badly it could hurt YR in the long run...what a fan should do...I guess I will continue not watching but bits & pieces because I can't stomach what JFP is selling as soap opera either...just saying Puzzled I won't return full time until she is gone.

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If it is all about ratings,

If it is all about ratings, then why does not CBS and Frau Phelps just sacrifice a virgin on Halloween night.

Oh, I forgot that is what she did to get the current ratings bump... Evil

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Issuing a press releasse

Issuing a press releasse usually indicates there is something to hide or they do not wish for the true facts to come out.

So, another new character? Add this to the new Abbott boy coming, this "Ally" we have mentioned, Cynthis Watros' character.... geez will there be any room left?

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On issuing a press release...

Yes, TraceyAbbott it's actually sad to think this will excite viewers how the bump in ratings is a good thing...well we all knew this would happen, simply because of the controversy of the story drew viewers, occasion viewers tune in to see what all the talk is about or about a legacy character as Delia being so connected to Chancellors, Abbotts, Fosters...it has happened every time on JFP's watch! Wink

The real deal is down the road and with new writers coming aboard will it sustain this boost...heck NO because it's all stunt sweep stories. I feel you will see the chipping away to start because another round of new characters or newer characters viewers don't want to see eating up air time and no sight of stories for other remaining vets...sad, so sad!

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The results on survey are in on Y&R

Survey WLS did an extensive look at YR and had a survey for readers to fill out and boy they did over 4100 surveys done in a short period it was up...OH gosh yes I voted....

The results are in...eek! Shock

http://www.welovesoaps.net/2013/10/the-state-of-young-and-restless-surve...

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Okay, thanks for the link,

Okay, thanks for the link, Har!

I gott say it's worrysome how they didn't pick Dylan even into the top ten of least favorites. Surely people cannot think this insipid non-character is a good fit for this show??? I mean I know he has his fans but for eff sake there can't be THAT many of them! Ugh.

Agree wholeheartedly with other choices though, like Hilary, Tyler, nuAbby (boring!), etc. And isn't it funny how the once flagship-py couple of Y&R, Lily & Cane are also to be found on the least favorites list?!? Goes to show how even they've been dulled down from the writing. Say what you want about them, but at least under MAB they were happening!

Glad to see so many vets under the favorite characters list!!! Especially given that the only women there are Nikki and Jill!!! Great choices! Smile

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Its a well done survey.

Its a well done survey. Sadly I'm over thinking TPTB at Y&R/CBS/Sony even know what Y&R should look and be written like. As long as ratings maintain, quality will always be secondary. I can get to some degree Angelica McDaniel's desire to have people be more positive about soaps with her use of hashtags that read #glasshalffull #1bigfamily. But when your number 1 soap is being received mostly negatively by viewers and soap press alike the lofty tweets read as someones who's ignorant to the state of the soap she oversees. I personally don't think she knows lick about what made Y&R special. As for Steve Kent I think if soaps went away he'd be happy and lose zero sleep over it.

I did watch Y&R today as I wanted to see Ashley's return. I almost fainted when I saw the Abbotts around the dinner table. It was a nice nod to history even it was just for one scene. Kudos to whomever penned that. Overall I still can't get into the show. The Delia storyline still seems to me like a desperate attempt to make the show viable. Given they completely screwed up Kay's death, which could have revitalized the show with the right writers, I think by February no one will be talking about Delia anymore and Jill will be staging her next big stunt. Her track record speaks for itself.

I have mostly given up on the show. The things that made it unique and interesting are no more. Jill's arrival did away with the last of Bill Bell's touches. Maria massacred story but kept production the same. JFP's arrival put people to sleep and did away with the production side. Y&R is just so ordinary and bland now. I watch shows like American Horror Story who fuel their narrative with drama galore and amazing scores and performances to boot. This show has a stamp on it that makes it stand out. Y&R used to be that soap. The show used to have melodrama to spare. It was smartly written and had a consistency that was unmatched. All accompanied with glorious music, sweeping camera moves, beautiful sets and costumes. Now the music is used sparsely and lacks emotional punch. As far as costumes and hair, most days Nikki looks like she's on her way to the grocery store. I want my snobby Nikki back who used to emerge from the Newman staircase like she was about to host a gala. A character who once wore prada to guzzle a bottle of vodka, looked down on blue collar Sharon and had sexcapades with muscle Gods like Bobby Marsino. The wealthy don't seem wealthy anymore and the playing fields are all too leveled between the haves and the have nots. Then there is the writing. It lacks tension and buildup. It's all so gimmicky and none of the storylines have lasting impact anymore. Just bland and predictable.

Yes I being negative, but that's because I was a fan when daytime used to be good. Most importantly I was a fan of this show when it was the fucking bomb! A leader in it's class. A show that every fan out there once dubbed, the gold standard in daytime. I'm pissed because we've gone from Lombardi Trophy style playing to a losing record due to meager management who wants us to blithely pretend like its all good and hash-tag their positive affirming tweets with them. Here is one for you Angelica, #Blowsmokeupsomeoneelsesass

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Restless Fan.....In Total

Restless Fan.....In Total Agreement. I remember the Y&R you describe, and it was the BOMB.

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Love the hash tag Restless, I

Love the hash tag Restless, I can't bring myself to watch this week even with the lovely Eileen back why bother I can see her on days a little bit longer if I need a fix. I wonder who told TNIIC about the Abbott breakfasts because we know they aren't smart enough to figure that out on their own. Here is another hash tag #fireJFP

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i totally agree with Restless

i totally agree with Restless Fan.....the young and the restless....was the drama everyone knows was glamorous....rich...like watching a classic film....costumes..the setting....the mood....the storylines....the looks and the style.....it was y and r trademark where it made abc soaps looks cheaps....nikki newman and jill abbott made erica kane looks like a kmart.......nikki wore the couture designs of escada and st.john....jill abbott wore the mackies and the mulgers......as a successful fashion designer in ny and milan.....i have seen the best of costumes for y and runder...the magnificent....greg york who was emmys for his work and made y and r the dynasty of daytime....so be said...the bold and the beautiful is about the fashion industry but the characters of forrester including brooke logan wore versaces and guccis..now wearing boring clothes.......i wanna see y and r back in top form with the best scores...costumes....camera angles and most of all....bring the abbotts back....the dining room for breaksfast...ashley argue with jack at dinner....wanna see mamie come back.....bring the real matriarch of madame dina mergeron aka..ms. dina abbott....perhap MARJ DUSAY can be the new DINA MERGERON.....and the abbott would be complete......nikki need to be the real nikki....glamorous bitch snob woman in european designer clothes and talk down on sharon or avery.....jill abbott need to be back full time in chancellor estate and wear designer clothes of gaultier and be a real bitch and sleep with the stableboys ala chancellor done in the past...jill was a sex freak....she would be having sex plenty with carmine.....jill abbott is really is the ALEXIS COLBY...and carmine could be like alexis' man dex dexter.....i know bill bell sr...would agree..........get rid of devon...april...mason....dylan....summer....kyle....bring several FORRESTERS to young and the restless......Jack Abbott can fall for TAYLOR HAYES......FELICIA FORRESTER is the new bitch on wheel and would be hot with `Adam Newman.......THORNE FORRESTER can be romancing Jill Abbott....he can be what dex dexter was to alexis...also i love to see KEVIN dump CHLOE and she goes to BILLY..they have chemistry...KEVIN should realize he is gay and fall for CHAVEZ...those two guys were make headline for the sexiest gay couple on daytime.....YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS is about glamour....sex....dram...glitz...storytelling like classic films...not mobsters or action thriller like what general hospital been doing under jill farren phelps.....YOUNG AND RESTLESS is a classic drama with rich taste for life.....hey maybe i should quit designing and be the new headwriter for y and r...since i been the biggest fan when jill abbott married john and slept with her stepson jack in the early 80s...thats real drama!

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Restless..

Excellent post Restless, I choked on my coffee laughing reading your so appropriate hash tag! Big smile Beer Cheers...I'm feeling the exact same way.

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Ashley!!

Eileen D showed up Day 1 with a knock-out Red Dress on, looking like she is on the way to a big-time event. The next day she was wearing a cream-colored designer outfit that is top-notch again.

Then Lantern-Jaw walked in with his stupid lines, and whiny-Summer pouted out her insipid speech, so the moment is ruined.

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Hey mon... But didn't it feel

Hey mon...

But didn't it feel great to have her there? I almost felt like there was some hope for the show again...

I know she's back again for two or so episodes at the end of November.

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RestlessFan, Great "column"!

RestlessFan, Great "column"! You should really write for a paper.

I must admit, even though I can barely turn this insidious show on anymore, I had to take a peek at Eileen.

I have to say, firstly she looked wonderful (no surprise there) and I will admit they did make her seem important on the show. The first episode ending with her coming and the closing shot being her smiling face, then she got the last spot at the preview for the next day, and she got to be the one to talk Billy from the brink of depression, especially when she herself knew what she was talking about. So even though it was a visit, I did get the feeling that this show felt she was important. Also Angelica and the CBS Daytime handles have been tweeting her visit a LOT considering it's just a pop-by for three episodes. I'm sure Ang and others have taken sneak peeks at Days to see her as Kristen and, as most fans of Ashley, have been blown away by her acting and the front-burner presence.

Could it be, that since she has gotten so much more clout and fame from being on Days this past year that these people at Y&R would like to capitalize on her star power? That may be, but that still doesn't mean they would write for her the kind of front-burner storylines she would deserve.

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Yorla... I 100% percent

Yorla...

I 100% percent agree.

With the exception of Dylan, I have NO FAITH that these writers will write an engaging story for anyone else.

Unless it is the usual stunt writing that brings these known names back to shows (GH is doing a LOT of it right now...MAB was the queen of it during her tenure) none of today's soap writers give us stories that we can invest in long term.

It's a shame to go back and watch LONG clips from any show back in the 70's/80's/90's when soaps were at their peak. Those were the writers that I truly believe loved what they did and wrote stories they thought would be meaningful once played out.

Today the EPs dictate what, when and who will get a story, and only worry about the bottom line. Now granted, that is more important today than it was back in the day when soaps were a certainty. But there is no balance at all.

I pray that Ashley comes back full time. I know ED did some great work on Days, but since I don't watch it I selfishly want her back in her Abbott mansion with Jackie and hopefully Traci.

The little time she on was screen PROVES what a force she can be when she's back.

Angelica needs to get it done.